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Enough with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only PLEASE!
From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time
Fletcher,
Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I didn't get it until
8:04 this morning! But before I went to bed last night, I received
Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM),
Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's
11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM.
And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed up here at 10:08 this morning.
Go figure!
Allen
****************************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the other
night which were 30-45 minutes.
It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous,
with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either
- or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same
route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it
must interface with a "real" internet doofus.
I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than
(claimed) sent time - Rock Auto is one.
Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
FRM
On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours
before some earlier ones. ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if it
were consistent. I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. I'll
write a reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for
20-24 hours. In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to
questions posed later. Tonight I received two or three replies before I
received the questions involved. Somebody sent in a picture. I have a
reply from somebody else who reports seeing it, but I haven't received the
picture post yet...
' Don't think we're there yet...
Allen
****************************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
****************************************************************
On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
Steven Trovato wrote:
OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list. I sent them
three minutes apart. I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes
later. The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone explain to
me why this is? What is causing such a long delay? I'm sending this one at
7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to
make a liar out of me. :-)
No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail
getting sent out from
the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software
related. The program
that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as quickly
as it should. And
with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a major factor
in the Team.Net <http://Team.Net/>
mailing list software.
I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive I may specifically request
assistance with a new
machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the
tooth. Donate
early, donate often ;-)
I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At
least the mail does
eventually go through. Using something like http://www.team.net/forums
would not have
this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
mjb.
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Enough with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only =
PLEASE!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
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zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net =
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] List response =
time<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Fletcher,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. =
I didn't get it until 8:04 this morning! But before I went =
to bed last night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his =
10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over =
nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' =
Showed up here at 10:08 this morning.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Go figure!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>****************************************************************</span>=
</i></b></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Allen & Florrie Bachelder =
=3Diii=3D<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs";>http://www.mgexperie=
nce.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span =
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'>****************************************************************</span>=
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iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>And just think - those are the people =
saying Lucas is bad!<br>This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than =
your messages the other night which were 30-45 minutes.<br>It is my =
understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous, with =
stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either =
- or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the =
same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, =
as it must interface with a "real" internet doofus.<br>I do =
get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than =
(claimed) sent time - Rock Auto is one. <br><br>Can you get =
send/receive info from the Digest =
version?<br><br>FRM<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm =
seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours =
before some earlier ones. ' Could tolerate the delay much more =
easily if it were consistent. I'm talking delays of much more than =
30-45 minutes. I'll write a reply about this time in the evening =
and it might not show up for 20-24 hours. In the meantime, other =
replies are coming in hours earlier, to questions posed later. =
Tonight I received two or three replies before I received the =
questions involved. Somebody sent in a picture. I have a =
reply from somebody else who reports seeing it, but I haven't received =
the picture post yet... <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>' =
Don't think we're there yet...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>**********=
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an><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
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</span></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
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p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Allen =
& Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<<br>Spring =
Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>'57 ZB, =
'65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>North =
Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
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class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> =
</span></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
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'>****************************************************************</span>=
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</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Steven Trovato =
wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>OK, =
so I responded to two different messages on this list. I sent them =
three minutes apart. I received one from the list about 10-15 =
minutes later. The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes. =
Can anyone explain to me why this is? What is causing such a =
long delay? I'm sending this one at 7:10pm Eastern Time. Now =
we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me. =
:-)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>No, you are not imagining things, =
there can be some long delays in mail getting sent out from<br>the =
server. At the moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly =
software related. The program<br>that translates between IP =
addresses and names is not responding as quickly as it should. =
And<br>with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups =
are a major factor in the <a =
href=3D"http://Team.Net/";>Team.Net</a><br>mailing list =
software.<br><br>I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive I =
may specifically request assistance with a new<br>machine to run the =
nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the tooth. =
Donate<br>early, donate often ;-)<br><br>I may be able to improve =
things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least the mail =
does<br>eventually go through. Using something like <a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums";>http://www.team.net/forums</a> would =
not have<br>this issue, but a lot of folks prefer =
email.<br><br>mjb.<br><br><br>___________________________________________=
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