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Re: Phantom Grip LSD

To: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>, <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Phantom Grip LSD
From: "John Kipping" <johnkipping@inet.net.nz>
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:56:11 +1200
I can't see that it would ever lock, but the limiting slip would keep
driving at least one wheel if the inner one lost traction.
John Kipping
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: Phantom Grip LSD


> John,
>
> I can see that too, but the question I have is how does it "lock" under
higher
> loads.  The only thing I can see is that perhaps the centripetal forces
are high
> enough to force the two plates further apart, thereby provide sufficient
> friction against the spider gears to keep them from rotating
independently.
> This however, is purely conjecture on my part.
>
> Jack
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net]On
> >Behalf Of John Kipping
> >Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:47 PM
> >To: Henry Frye; Bill Babcock
> >Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: Phantom Grip LSD
> >
> >
> >I can see exactly how it is supposed to work. The springs force the two
> >plates against the internal diff side gears, and depending on the forces
> >involved will prevent them from turning to some extent when cornering so
> >providing a "limited" amount of slip, limited in that the friction on the
> >gears depends on the strength of the springs. A very simple idea that
could
> >do with being investigated more under various driving conditions. Unlike
the
> >Quaife LSD centres (which I thought were totally indestructable) this
unit
> >won't make the diff any stronger.
> >John Kipping
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Henry Frye" <thefryes@iconn.net>
> >To: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
> >Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:25 AM
> >Subject: RE: Phantom Grip LSD
> >
> >
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> I thought it was me! I feel much better now, I thought the exact same
> >> thing... I haven't a clue how this thing is supposed to do the job.
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> At 08:58 AM 9/12/2002 -0700, Bill Babcock wrote:
> >> >Does anyone have any idea how these things work? First, what's the
> >> >theory--I can't tell what it's supposed to do by looking at the
pictures.
> >> >Second--do they work, and how long.
> >> >
> >> >For what I see in the assembly picture, $270 looks like a lot of
money.
> >> >Two blocks with springs between them? But it'd be cheap if they worked
> >> >well and lasted.

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