Re: [Healeys] Napa fuel pump

[Al Fuller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>]

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Yeah... I've used and liked Walbro pumps on cars, trucks and boats but
alas- no more...

You might keep it to use as a transfer pump in the garage. You'd have to
find a way to get the gas out of it after use...

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 8:49 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks, Al. I wondered if the Walbro would work, but now it goes in the
> sh*tcan.
> bs
>
> On 6/13/2021 5:11 PM, Al Fuller wrote:
>
> Bob, my car came with a walbro installed (and a spare). The ethonal in the
> fuel dissolved the rubber diaphragm- first on one then on the other. I
> bought rebuild kits, but they didn't last.
>
> I called Walbro, and they asked 'what the heck are you using these on'?
> When I told him a road vehicle, he said give it up. Diesel boats are where
> their using them now.
>
> I asked whether they would have a diaphragm that would work with ethanol,
> and they said no plans to do it.
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 1:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a pump by Walbro I bought years ago and never used. It's the
>> approximate size and shape of an SU and, apparently, it uses points (but
>> may be solid state). Anyone tried these? Came across this:
>>
>> https://walbrofuelpumps.com/why-fuel-pumps-fail
>>
>> ps. Why are we discussing this? According to some, SU pumps never fail
>> and last forever (I'm just an unlucky SOB ;).
>>
>> bs
>>
>>
>> On 6/13/2021 9:33 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Interestingly enough Michael, AHX12 (in which you have competed for many
>> hours) runs 2 "cube" type pumps and they have proven to be totally
>> reliable.
>> I wonder if some of the problems that have been reported may be
>> attributable to incorrect installation.
>> As I recall the instructions provided with these pumps clearly indicate
>> that they MUST be installed at an angle of around 45 degrees on a vertical
>> surface with the outlet above the inlet.
>> I have seen many installed incorrectly.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Sat., Jun. 12, 2021, 9:32 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim--
>>>
>>> I use a double-headed SU pump on my 100 because of the redundancy it
>>> offers.  However, were I fitting an aftermarket pump to it I would use a
>>> Carter 4570, which I use on both of my race cars that have
>>> Weber DCOE's and thus require low fuel pressure (2-4 psi) as do the SU's on
>>> my Healey.   I am NOT a fan of the FACET cube pumps (relabelled by NAPA and
>>> many other sellers).  The Carter has never let me down, this under racing
>>> conditions, etc.
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jim Werner via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone have the part number for the NAPA fuel pump that is low
>>>> pressure and suitable for use on Healeys?
>>>>
>>>> Jim Werner
>>>> Louisville, KY
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<div dir=3D"auto">Yeah... I&#39;ve used and liked Walbro pumps on cars, tru=
cks and boats but alas- no more...<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">You might keep it to use as a transfer pump in the garage. You&#39;d h=
ave to find a way to get the gas out of it after use...</div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 13=
, 2021, 8:49 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bsp=
idell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
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  <div>
    Thanks, Al. I wondered if the Walbro would work, but now it goes in
    the sh*tcan.<br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 6/13/2021 5:11 PM, Al Fuller wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">Bob, my car came with a walbro installed (and a
        spare). The ethonal in the fuel dissolved the rubber diaphragm-
        first on one then on the other. I bought rebuild kits, but they
        didn&#39;t last.=C2=A0
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">I called Walbro, and they asked &#39;what the hec=
k
          are you using these on&#39;? When I told him a road vehicle, he
          said give it up. Diesel boats are where their using them now.</di=
v>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">I asked whether they would have a diaphragm that
          would work with ethanol, and they said no plans to do it.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 1:07 PM
          Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div> I have a pump by Walbro I bought years ago and never
            used. It&#39;s the approximate size and shape of an SU and,
            apparently, it uses points (but may be solid state). Anyone
            tried these? Came across this:<br>
            <br>
            <a href=3D"https://walbrofuelpumps.com/why-fuel-pumps-fail"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://walbrofuelpumps.com/wh=
y-fuel-pumps-fail</a><br>
            <br>
            ps. Why are we discussing this? According to some, SU pumps
            never fail and last forever (I&#39;m just an unlucky SOB ;).<br=
>
            <br>
            bs<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div>On 6/13/2021 9:33 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:<br=
>
            </div>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">
              <div dir=3D"auto">
                <div>Interestingly=C2=A0enough Michael, AHX12 (in which you
                  have competed for many hours) runs 2 &quot;cube&quot; typ=
e pumps
                  and they have proven to be totally reliable.
                  <div dir=3D"auto">I wonder if some of the problems that
                    have been reported may be attributable to incorrect
                    installation.=C2=A0</div>
                  <div dir=3D"auto">As I recall the instructions provided
                    with these pumps clearly indicate that they MUST be
                    installed at an angle of around 45 degrees on a
                    vertical surface with the outlet above the inlet.</div>
                  <div dir=3D"auto">I have seen many installed
                    incorrectly.</div>
                  <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat., Jun. 12,
                      2021, 9:32 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff=
">Jim--</div>
                        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff=
"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff=
">I
                          use a double-headed SU pump on my 100 because
                          of the redundancy it offers.=C2=A0 However, were=
=C2=A0I
                          fitting an aftermarket pump to it I would use
                          a Carter 4570, which I use on both of my race
                          cars that have Weber=C2=A0DCOE&#39;s=C2=A0and=C2=
=A0thus require
                          low fuel pressure (2-4 psi) as do the SU&#39;s on
                          my Healey.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I am NOT a fan of the FACE=
T cube
                          pumps (relabelled by NAPA and many other
                          sellers).=C2=A0 The Carter has never let me down,
                          this under racing conditions, etc.</div>
                        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff=
"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff=
">Best--Michael
                          Oritt=C2=A0</div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun
                          12, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jim Werner via Healeys
                          &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div>Does anyone have the part number for the
                            NAPA fuel pump that is low pressure and
                            suitable for use on Healeys?<br>
                            <br>
                            <div style=3D"clear:both">
                              <div style=3D"font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-=
serif"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Jim Werner</span>
                                <div>Louisville, KY</div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
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