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Re: Turbo's And Power Brakes

To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
Subject: Re: Turbo's And Power Brakes
From: tschoen <j82244@fuse.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:44:41 -0500
Yeah,really wish I could run a quick change but that's pretty much impossible
with the Honda.Do have some smaller tires this season which should allow the car
to max out in 4th. 5th is useless at Maxton but should be perfect for B'ville.
Gonna try to beat the current B'ville record(133.8 MPH) for H/MS at Maxton.I
know it won't count as a B'ville record but seems like an achievable goal.Kieth
,could you send some copies of your graphs either electronically or by snail
mail-sounds interesting.
                                                              From The Gloom Of
River City
                                                                  Tim Schoeny

Keith Turk wrote:

> Tim I can Prove your thoughts to you on a Graph.... Got Several Passes and
> With a Maximum Effort the speeds are in fact quicker.
>
> Several of us have cars that run at more then one venue.... El Mirage or
> Muroc simply won't stand the Horsepower efforts on the starting line that
> Maxton will.  At Maxton the sooner you get into your top speed at the
> correct RPM the sooner you can let the engine work against the effects of
> Nature... and the faster you will go.
>
> Cars that are designed Purely for Maxton most likely won't be optimized for
> Bville.... and so on.... We have the Camaro Pretty well set up for both with
> the spoiler but I think some added weight would really Benifet us at
> Bville....
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tschoen <j82244@fuse.net>
> To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> Cc: Lawrence E. & Cathy R. Mayfield <lemay@hiwaay.net>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Turbo's And Power Brakes
>
> > Thanks to all who had constructive comments.I'm off the vac. thing now but
> do
> > wish to take exception to the opinion that Maxton doesn't require maximum
> (maybe
> > even violent !) acceleration off the starting line, although some
> combinations
> > may be more sensitive than others. It is after all  a long drag race
> without the
> > other car.The reason for maxing out at the line is not to "hole shot" the
> other
> > guy(who doesn't exist) but to provide enough time/distance in the upper
> gears to
> > achieve max terminal velocity for a particular combination.My combination
> > produces max speed with fairly high RPM launches-no power below 5,000 and
> > relatively high shift points 8,700.The difference is about 3-4 MPH between
> a max
> > effort launch and a "granny" one. That's just one of the small cube/low
> torque
> > facts of life.
> >                                                          Tim Schoeny
> >
> > Dan Warner wrote:
> >
> > > Tim,
> > >
> > > There are no starting line beams at Bonneville, El Mirage or Muroc. Just
> > > make sure you drive between them somewhere down the road, anywhere from
> 1.3
> > > to 5 miles depending on where you are located.
> > >
> > > Dan W
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Lawrence E. & Cathy R. Mayfield <lemay@hiwaay.net>
> > > To: tschoen <j82244@fuse.net>; <dkveuro@flash.net>
> > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Turbo's And Power Brakes
> > >
> > > > Uh, are we drag racing or what? Plus most cas with turbo on the
> staging
> > > > line just don't make much boost because the rpms are not that high.
> Unless
> > > > you have a 5000 rpm stall converter and a Transbrake (mine will have
> > > that).
> > > > If running on the lakes or Maxton, no need to build lots of rpm and
> drop
> > > > the hammer. Smooth acceleration is what is called for (aggressive, but
> > > > smooth).
> > > >
> > > > my 2 cents woth and worth every penny!
> > > >
> > > > mayf
> > > >
> > > > At 09:04 PM 3/9/00 -0500, tschoen wrote:
> > > > >OK-let's say the car is sitting at the starting line with 15-30 psi
> in
> > > the
> > > > >manifold and staged, now you're telling me that it's going to have
> enough
> > > > >brakes to prevent rolling thru the starting  beam-I don't think so.
> > > > >
> > > > >Don Kerr wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Who's gonna be braking  on a full throttle???????
> > > > >> Check valves, check valves, check valves, and throw in a vac' tank.
> > > > >> Vac comes right back real quick on a closed throttle at
> 9000rpm!!!!!!!
> > > > >> But really it's no problem,only blowin' when you need the power
> Tim.
> > > > >> ..........DK.
> > > > >>      (Scrap-Iron Racin')
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> tschoen wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > What happens to your power brakes when a turbo or blower is
> > > added-seems
> > > > >> > you wouldn't have any/much vac.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Tim Schoeny
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > L.E. Mayfield
> > > > 124 Maximillion Drive
> > > > Madison, Al. 35758-8171
> > > > ph: 1-256-837-1051
> > > >
> > > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~lemayf
> > > >
> > > > lemay@hiwaay.net
> > > >
> > > > Sunbeam Tiger, B9471136
> > > > Sunbeam Alpine Bonneville Land Speed Racer,
> > > > '66 Hydroplane Drag Boat (390 FE)
> > > >
> >
> >


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