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Re: WHATS A MATTA HERE??!?!!?

To: "Doug Anderson" <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: WHATS A MATTA HERE??!?!!?
From: "The Butters Family" <bbutters@dmi.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:52:58 -0700
   Doug , I,d guess your vacuum advance is sticking, but if all else fails
trty running a separate hot wire to your ignition and bypassing the key.
Crank the darn thing over without the ignition turned on then when it's
spinning good  flip the switch  to heat up the ignition. In other words
pretend its a real race car with locked out advance. Kvach
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Anderson <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:58 PM
Subject: WHATS A MATTA HERE??!?!!?


> Hey folks;
>
>          Been havin' some serious  "startin" problems with Boogie Woogie
> lately...   Why would my 332"  327 with 10-1 compression...act like "the
> battery was low" and grind over, you know like a typical chevvie thats got
a
> "hot starter motor"???  something like; GRRuhhhhhh, GRRuhhhh, GRRuhhhin,
> GRRuhhhinn, Grinnddddd.....
>
> ...it all started last weekend really....and can be downright embarrasin'
at
> times it can.   The whole setup in Boogiewoogie has 16,000 on it now.
All
> was new or rebuilt when she was finished -except the 1 1/2 yr old battery.
> All was right with the world until last week.  As of this writing I have
> replaced the starter with another rebuilt BIGBLOCK one, and bought a brand
> new   75 month    990 cold cranking amps   battery from NAPA...to the tune
> of about a hunnert an' a 'quata for the two..OW.   -on my Collegggg
> allowance.  OW.
>
>        It ain't no better boys.   WHAT GIVES?????     HELP !!?!!?
>
>
> here's what were'r workin' with;
>
> 332" motor 10-1 compression;  327 Chev 1966 block and ported 1.94intake,
> 461 heads
>
> Comp Cams hydraulic  285 degree, 490 lift  rumpity cam
> (she maintains 17 " of vacuum during a coast condition at highway
speeds...)
>
>
> A "stock" Chev point distributor circa 1966-69; with "the door."
> -inside is Mallory all the way.   (brass contact cap & rotor with 5000mi.
> on'em?)
>
>
> Ignition is by MSD 6A box and coil.  Points serve only as trigger.
> Dwell 29-30
> Vacuum advance hooked up normally, runs off manifold vacuum port on OFFY
3x2
> intake.     Best quality MSD  'spensive 8.8mm wires are used.    And
> Autolite 303 plugs. -whiht maybe 3000 miles on them?
>
> Timing is set pretty normally. -Though I've always been a little perplexed
> as to WHY the marks never really seemed to be where they should when it is
> running good -and boy does she ever run GOOD!  lotsa power.  Just always
> timed'er by "by ear" and did fine.    Been doin' it that way all my life
it
> seems like!    Decent fuel mileage  (14-16.5 mpg with  a 3.5 rear gear at
> freeway speeds.) even with the cranky three deuces.   Which are run
> progressively.     No matter what I've tried it always runs generally rich
> -gets to your eyes at traffic lights with no hood on.  -It runs and idles
a
> bit differently every time it's used on a different day....-responsive all
> all get out though, and LOTS of fun.   Just ask the regular "citizens" and
> the tailgating jerks in their Beemas' ,  Mitsu's,  and Infinities..
>
>
> Jeesh, I've  tried quite a few things..but I'm stumped with this.
>                                               -Boy do I ever dealing with
> HATE  "electronics" problems.
>
> Can anybody here give me a clue fellas?    I  sure need to try to get'er
> fixed by Thursday night as I need to take it on a 4-500 mile trip Friday
> mornin'  .   And  I GOTTA have TOTAL reliability for every start..
>
> One thing I tried was to remove the coil wire and  try cranking it
over -and
> she spins over freely like it ought'a   -but with the wire back in place,
it
> labors.   -making you wonder if it will or if it won't.    You know?
> That tells me "timing"    -so I checked..and it was right where it always
> is.   Checked down low without vacuum, and at about 2500-3000 for total.
> And she runs  like a bear when she is running, -and slows normally as you
> retard the spark and raises again as you advance it at idle...  normal
> stuff.
>
> When cranking and it's straining, if you give it a squirt with the gas
> pedal, whoom! She starts!   -USUALLY.     I'd say the ol' MSD box is doin'
> it's job to fire it off at such a low RPM crankijng speed.
>
> So if that's working fine,  and the timing is reasonably right,   the
> starters "new" and so's the Battery,    WHAT NEXT?
>
>
> ANY IDEAS greatly appreciated boys.   I'll be back online in the late
> morning.   Oh,  I forgot to say that I've had the new NAPA battery on
> trickle charge since 10 am because it did not show a "full" charge when
the
> counterman checked it this morning when I purchased it.     I did try
> starting the beast once before putting it on the charger (2 amp) and it
> acted about the same as it did before; with a slooooow grunting,
begrudging
> start..    however, that said,     could it be     just co-incidence
>   that because it was down a bit it would act that way too?   (like the
old
> battery did)      Like maybe when I get home in an hour from Colleggg all
> will be right with the world again????    Naw I did'nt think so either...
>
> Aw Hell, boys        What gives?????
>
>
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