If it's only idle speed, that's not a problem. Most people seem never to
have heard of it, so methinks it's something my seller had explained
(improperly) to him, and it just passed itself on. I don't live anywhere
near California or the west coast, and I know they're stringent in
requirements, so it was hard to judge if it really was a feature or not.
>From talking to Kelvin and all it's starting to sound just like an
underadjusted idle, which is fine.
Thanks all
- Tab
At 10:41 AM 10/19/99 -0700, Max Heim wrote:
>There seems to be a lack of recognition of this "feature". Is it
>documented in the service manual? Most of the replies seem to think it is
>merely an issue of friction. I don't know either way, having no
>experience with RB cars. But have you tried increasing the idle speed to
>compensate? That seems pretty straightforward.
>
>Tab Julius had this to say:
>
>>
>>Let me restate the question, as I think it's getting lost.
>>
>>I definitely don't ride the clutch. HOWEVER, the car has (ostensibly for
>>emissions reasons) a "feature" to reduce idle speed while the clutch is
>>depressed. If you plan to take the car anywhere, the clutch has to go in
>>sometime :)
>>
>>As I live in both a hilly area, where sometimes we must have the clutch in,
>>and because of the weather, I'd rather not have a reduced idle that could
>>cause it to stall even during valid uses of the clutch.
>>
>>So, I'm asking if it's appropriate to bypass it - that is, will it hurt
>>anything (don't think so), and also HOW to bypass it. I don't ride the
>>clutch, but I also don't like to have the idle drop during the times I need
>>to use the clutch.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>- Tab
>>
>>
>>At 09:01 AM 10/19/99 -0500, Peter C. wrote:
>>>Folks,
>>> A few quick thoughts. Roller bearing or carbon.... don't "ride" the
>>>clutch. The only time that a clutch can become worn is when your foot is on
>>>the pedal. If you don't touch the pedal, the clutch wont wear. Also, the
>>>forward thrust you are placing on the crankshaft will cause the premature
>>>wearing of the thrust washers on your main bearings.... not insignificant.
>>>Don't mean to sound "preachy" But some people go through a clutch every 50k
>>>and some will last 300k.... the difference is not the car or the clutch...
>>>honest.
>>> At lights, car in neutral, foot off the pedal.
>>> Peter C
>>>----
>>>At 08:52 AM 10/19/1999 , Larry Hoy wrote:
>>>>James, et al,
>>>>
>>>>I was going to suggest a roller throw out bearing might
>>>>alleviate Tab's problem, but I have never used one, and over
>>>>the years I have heard good and bad things about them. I
>>>>would be interested in the input from this list on them, so
>>>>what do you think? The biggest issue would be, are they
>>>>durable? No sense replacing a carbon bearing with one that
>>>>doesn't last as long.
>>>>
>>>>Larry Hoy
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net
>>>>> [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net]On
>>>>> Behalf Of James Nazarian Jr
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 2:43 AM
>>>>> To: Larry Hoy
>>>>> Cc: Tab Julius; mgs@autox.team.net
>>>>> Subject: RE: Bypass clutched idle reducer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might try the roller throw out bearing. I am
>>>>> personally very happy
>>>>> with it and I know many others are too. I think
>>>>> that it also aleviates
>>>>> many of the problems with riding the cluch and
>>>>> related issues. I notice
>>>>> many drivers stop at a light and sit there in
>>>>> gear clutch depressed until
>>>>> light turns. I'm not saying this is your problem
>>>>> but you can't even think
>>>>> about doing this with the carbon bearings. As
>>>>> far as I can tell the
>>>>> roller bearing fixes that, and it lasts quite a
>>>>> bit longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> James Nazarian
>>>>> '71 B roadster
>>>>> '74 BGT with no sills
>>>>> '63 Buick 215 eyeing another rolling chassis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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