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Re: [Mgs] Reality, was:Oil Article

To: Rick Lindsay <>, MG List <>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality, was:Oil Article
From: Dan DiBiase <>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:21:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Lindsay <>
To: MG List <>; Eric Erickson <>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:36:54 AM
Subject: [Mgs] Reality, was:Oil Article

I guess a good question to ask Eric is; How often do you rebuild the engine?

Some might argue that an engine needs to only last until the end of the victory 
lap.  We must be careful to not mix purposes, apples and oranges.

And more importantly (and this will get me in trouble), we're comparing new 
precision machines to MGs and Triumphs.  That's like comparing Intel quad-cores 
to VIC20s.  Our old MG and Triumph engines, while we love them for their 
simplicity, are little more than farm implement power supplies.  Their 
manufacturing tolerances are loose and compensated for with heavy robustness 
and wearing-in.  This whole thread started with a set of galled lifter faces.  
That all but NEVER happens with modern engines.  And its not differences in 
oil.  Its differences in materials and design.  We have to face it.  No matter 
how much we love our old British hardware, its just old-school machinery.  
That's what I love about it!
The funny thing, in many ways, the new cars are more sensitive to certain 
things than our old cars. Oil is a good example. 
Audi's 1.8T engine - otherwise a very durable, tunable engine - is very 
sensitive to oil weights and changes. There are 
many well-documented sludge issues due to 1) Audi's very high change intervals 
(up to 2003) and 2) some slight neglect
by owners. Same with a Toyota V6 engine of a few years ago (can't recall which 
one, it was in early-2000's Sienna vans). 
Many are also very sensitive to octane ratings.

OTOH, when I bought my Audi, I was told by the dealer that the only thing that 
need breaking-in were the brakes! (Or, more
accurately, bedding in). I was told to drive the car like I planned to drive it 
(other than avoiding slamming on the brakes for a
certain number of miles). And our '07 Honda Odyssey minivan didn't ask me for 
it's first oil change until 5,400 miles, and the
second at 11,120 miles (it has a Maintenance Minder that tells you these 

On an unrelated note (and similarly off-topic!) I have the pleasure of 
announcing a new driver in our household. My youngest
son passed his test on Monday. So now I am REALLY going to have to get my '76 B 
on the road again, just so I have
something to drive this spring! Oh, hey, that was MG content!

 Dan D
Central NJ USA
'76 MGB Tourer
'65 MGB Tourer (Project)
NAMGBR #5-2328
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