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Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive

To: Charley38@twc.com
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
From: Chris Attias via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 08:28:50 -0700
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Oil technology is changing quickly, with the change in emissions and fuel
economy regulations and the redesign of newer engines.  Additive packages
are now designed for engines that run hotter, have tighter tolerances, and
must be cleaner to preserve catalytic converters and oxygen sensors. It's
easy to think in terms of individual brands that have "always been good",
but the thing that most affects the choice of oil is the API Service
Classification.
I found a good summary of the rapid changes in oil standards here:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm
As classifications change, old oil formulations become obsolete, the
appropriate oil for flat tappet engines has become pretty much the product
of specialty oil companies like Royal Purple, Driven/Joe Gibbs, Red Line,
Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).

Chris

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:32 PM Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I've been reading up on it to refresh my memory.  A lot of folks just take
> other peoples' word for it.
>
> CR
>
> On 7/5/2019 9:02 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> Only certain weights. You have to read the labels, or usually the spec
> sheets.
>
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> Max Heim
> mvheim@sonic.net
>
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM, FrankK <frankk12@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I assume all those brands include the correct ZDDP proportions./
>
> *From:* Max Heim
> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:02 PM
> *To:* FrankK ; MG List
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
>
> Right, but there are other brands. I use Mobil1 15W50. Others use Royal
> Purple, Joe Gibbs, Kendall or AMSoil brands.
>
>
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim@sonic.net
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oil technology is changing quickly, with the change i=
n emissions and fuel economy regulations and the redesign of newer engines.=
=C2=A0 Additive packages are now designed for engines that run hotter, have=
 tighter tolerances, and must be cleaner to preserve catalytic converters a=
nd oxygen sensors. It&#39;s easy to think in terms of individual brands tha=
t have &quot;always been good&quot;, but the thing that most affects the ch=
oice of oil is the API Service Classification.=C2=A0</div><div>I found a go=
od summary of the rapid changes in oil standards here:</div><div><a href=3D=
"http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm";>http://www.pqiamerica.com/a=
piserviceclass.htm</a><br></div><div>As classifications change, old oil for=
mulations become obsolete, the appropriate oil for flat tappet engines has =
become pretty much the product of specialty oil companies like Royal Purple=
, Driven/Joe Gibbs, Red Line, Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).<br></div=
><div><br></div>Chris<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:32 PM Charley Robinson via Mg=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
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    I&#39;ve been reading up on it to refresh my memory.=C2=A0 A lot of fol=
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    just take other peoples&#39; word for it.<br>
    <br>
    CR<br>
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    <div class=3D"gmail-m_-7918293755375773193moz-cite-prefix">On 7/5/2019 =
9:02 PM, Max Heim via Mgs
      wrote:<br>
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      Only certain weights. You have to read the labels, or usually the
      spec sheets.
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          <div>Max Heim</div>
          <div><a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; target=3D"_blank">mvheim=
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            <div>On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM, FrankK &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
rankk12@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank">frankk12@verizon.net</a>&gt;
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                    <div>I assume all those brands include the
                      correct ZDDP proportions./ </div>
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                          <div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"mvheim@sonic.net">M=
ax Heim</a> </div>
                          <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                            July 5, 2019 9:02 PM</div>
                          <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"frankk12@verizon.net"=
>FrankK</a> ; <a title=3D"mgs@autox.team.net">MG List</a> </div>
                          <div><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                            [Mgs] Oil Additive</div>
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                    <div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font=
-family:Calibri;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;display:inline">Right,
                      but there are other brands. I use Mobil1 15W50.
                      Others use Royal Purple, Joe Gibbs, Kendall or
                      AMSoil brands.
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                        <div>=C2=A0</div>
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                          <div>Max Heim</div>
                          <div><a>mvheim@sonic.net</a></div>
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