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Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive

Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
From: Andrew Lundgren via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 15:53:24 -0600
Cc: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: mgs@autox.team.net
References: <CB90691B2D724F519195CE7A463EED35@FrankPC> <928d32b4-f121-970b-95e5-5864fc296485@twc.com> <F560334C-B62D-48DA-8669-6E88E532603C@sonic.net> <D3FE611749114354A4ECDBFB27F621C8@FrankPC> <CE81D6E8-891E-4EB3-A65E-8BC69C18DB12@sonic.net> <F0370EA4862E4BF8ACAA81421C00B275@FrankPC> <E2322893-BFC2-4328-AAB7-95EFBFD76A3E@sonic.net> <41334e85-7322-dc7b-5e99-8bf65f5fd7fc@twc.com> <CAFpMPMUWkGBE90kC=+0TDfB8nCDvWKnbq9su+uPuZ7LG91ga0g@mail.gmail.com> <563b7edc-c398-0544-6d98-335ae678d40d@twc.com> <CAFpMPMUJRm-RS-_dbKPzvrF_=06naw=asLFCKDCr+z3sV8YAqA@mail.gmail.com> <001e01d5350a$f6d02980$e4707c80$@ranteer.com>
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I use that as well.

Napa and some AutoZone locations here stock it here.




On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 3:29 PM dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Valvoline VR-1 full synthetic is available from
> https://stores.advanceautoparts.com/
>
>
>
> Free shipping after $25, which is 3 quarts and arrives in about 3 days.
> Has lots of zddp.  Been using it for years.  And we autocross the car.
> Highly recommended along with WIX filters.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris Attias via
> Mgs
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 10:01 PM
> *To:* Charley38@twc.com
> *Cc:* Mga List <Mgs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
>
>
>
> I don't claim exhaustive knowledge about all racing oils. Valvoline VR1 is
> primarily made for racing, and I'd call it a specialty oil. Not something
> I've seen on the shelves at local auto parts stores. The most non-specialty
> oil I've seen is Mobil 1 15W-50, with an API classification SN, that has
> 1200 ppm zinc, and isn't recommended for extended use in cars with
> catalytic convertors.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 6:40 PM Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I don't agree unless you see Valvoline as a specialty motor oil
> supplier.
>
> CR
>
> On 7/6/2019 10:28 AM, Chris Attias wrote:
>
>
>
> As classifications change, old oil formulations become obsolete, the
> appropriate oil for flat tappet engines has become pretty much the product
> of specialty oil companies like Royal Purple, Driven/Joe Gibbs, Red Line,
> Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:32 PM Charley Robinson via Mgs <
> mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I've been reading up on it to refresh my memory.  A lot of folks just take
> other peoples' word for it.
>
> CR
>
> On 7/5/2019 9:02 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> Only certain weights. You have to read the labels, or usually the spec
> sheets.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> mvheim@sonic.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM, FrankK <frankk12@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I assume all those brands include the correct ZDDP proportions./
>
>
>
> *From:* Max Heim
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:02 PM
>
> *To:* FrankK ; MG List
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
>
>
>
> Right, but there are other brands. I use Mobil1 15W50. Others use Royal
> Purple, Joe Gibbs, Kendall or AMSoil brands.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> mvheim@sonic.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>I use that as well.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">Napa and some AutoZone locations here stock it here.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 7, 2019=
, 3:29 PM dave via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=
=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_29013892281010383=
62WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Valvoline VR-1 full synthetic is ava=
ilable from <a href=3D"https://stores.advanceautoparts.com/"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://stores.advanceautoparts.com/</a><u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Free shipping after $25, which is 3 quarts and arrives in about 3 days.=C2=
=A0 Has lots of zddp.=C2=A0 Been using it for years.=C2=A0 And we autocross=
 the car.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Highly recommended along with WIX filters.<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><b>From:</b> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>Chris Attias via Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 6, 2019 10:0=
1 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noreferrer">Charley38@twc.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Mga List &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Mgs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">I don&#39;t claim exhaustive knowledge about all racing oils. Valvoline=
 VR1 is primarily made for racing, and I&#39;d call it a specialty oil. Not=
 something I&#39;ve seen on the shelves at local auto parts stores. The mos=
t non-specialty oil I&#39;ve seen is Mobil 1 15W-50, with an API classifica=
tion SN, that has 1200 ppm zinc, and isn&#39;t recommended for extended use=
 in cars with catalytic convertors.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at=
 6:40 PM Charley Robinson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></=
u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0p=
t;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sorry, I don&#39;t agree un=
less you see Valvoline as a specialty motor oil supplier.<br><br>CR<u></u><=
u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 7/6/2019 10:28 AM, Chris Attias wr=
ote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bo=
ttom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">As classifications change, old oil formulations become obs=
olete, the appropriate oil for flat tappet engines has become pretty much t=
he product of specialty oil companies like Royal Purple, Driven/Joe Gibbs, =
Red Line, Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Chris <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:32 PM Charley =
Robinson via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding=
:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I&#39;ve been reading up on it to re=
fresh my memory.=C2=A0 A lot of folks just take other peoples&#39; word for=
 it.<br><br>CR<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 7/5/2019 9:0=
2 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"m=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Only certain we=
ights. You have to read the labels, or usually the spec sheets. <u></u><u><=
/u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">--<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Max =
Heim<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:m=
vheim@sonic.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mvheim@sonic.net</a><=
u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;m=
argin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM,=
 FrankK &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frankk12@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">frankk12@verizon.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I assume all those bra=
nds include the correct ZDDP proportions./ <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Max Heim </span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:bl=
ack">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Taho=
ma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Friday, July 5, 2019 9:02 PM</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:wh=
itesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> FrankK ; MG List </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"backgr=
ound:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Re: [Mgs] O=
il Additive</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
">Right, but there are other brands. I use Mobil1 15W50. Others use Royal P=
urple, Joe Gibbs, Kendall or AMSoil brands. <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Max Heim<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt"><a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">mvheim@sonic.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=C2=A0<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;m=
argin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></span=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/m=
ailman/options/mgs/charley38@twc.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
man/options/mgs/charley38@twc.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><=
/blockquote></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u=
></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fa=
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"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Chris Attias</span>=
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uot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">8117 Azalea Dr.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Felton, CA 95018</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">home: 831.335.2275=
</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">cell: 831.247.0001</span><u></u><u></=
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