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To: Chris Attias <cjattias@gmail.com>, Mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
From: Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 09:07:57 -0500
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Maybe you haven't looked hard enough.  I bought two quarts of 20W50 VR1 
yesterday at my local Autozone.  The other local stores carry it too.  
The first bullet on the back label calls it "High Performance/Racing 
Oil". Here's a blurb from Valvoline's website: 
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Document/18452/18bdee61-0a7e-e711-9c10-ac162d889bd3/a61538b4-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1

I've been using  20W50 VR1 in my '69 MGB for the last 5 years or so.  I 
use synthetics in my newer cars.

CR


On 7/6/2019 10:01 PM, Chris Attias wrote:
> I don't claim exhaustive knowledge about all racing oils. Valvoline 
> VR1 is primarily made for racing, and I'd call it a specialty oil. Not 
> something I've seen on the shelves at local auto parts stores.
>
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> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 6:40 PM Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com 
>
>     Sorry, I don't agree unless you see Valvoline as a specialty motor
>     oil supplier.
>
>     CR
>
>     On 7/6/2019 10:28 AM, Chris Attias wrote:
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>>     As classifications change, old oil formulations become obsolete,
>>     the appropriate oil for flat tappet engines has become pretty
>>     much the product of specialty oil companies like Royal Purple,
>>     Driven/Joe Gibbs, Red Line, Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).
>>
>>     Chris
>>
>>     On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:32 PM Charley Robinson via Mgs
>>
>>         I've been reading up on it to refresh my memory.  A lot of
>>         folks just take other peoples' word for it.
>>
>>         CR
>>
>>         On 7/5/2019 9:02 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>         Only certain weights. You have to read the labels, or
>>>         usually the spec sheets.
>>>
>>>         --
>>>         Max Heim
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>>>>         On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM, FrankK <frankk12@verizon.net
>>>>
>>>>         I assume all those brands include the correct ZDDP
>>>>         proportions./
>>>>         *From:* Max Heim
>>>>         *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:02 PM
>>>>         *To:* FrankK ; MG List
>>>>         *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
>>>>         Right, but there are other brands. I use Mobil1 15W50.
>>>>         Others use Royal Purple, Joe Gibbs, Kendall or AMSoil brands.
>>>>         --
>>>>         Max Heim
>>>>         mvheim@sonic.net
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>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>         man/options/mgs/charley38@twc.com
>>>         <http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/charley38@twc.com>
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> Chris Attias
> 8117 Azalea Dr.
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> home: 831.335.2275
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    Maybe you haven't looked hard enough.  I bought two quarts of 20W50
    VR1 yesterday at my local Autozone.  The other local stores carry it
    too.  The first bullet on the back label calls it "High
    Performance/Racing Oil". Here's a blurb from Valvoline's website: <a
href="https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Document/18452/18bdee61-0a7e-e711-9c10-ac162d889bd3/a61538b4-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1";>https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Document/18452/18bdee61-0a7e-e711-9c10-ac162d889bd3/a61538b4-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1</a><br>
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    I've been using  20W50 VR1 in my '69 MGB for the last 5 years or
    so.  I use synthetics in my newer cars.<br>
    <br>
    CR<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/2019 10:01 PM, Chris Attias
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      <div dir="ltr">I don't claim exhaustive knowledge about all racing
        oils. Valvoline VR1 is primarily made for racing, and I'd call
        it a specialty oil. Not something I've seen on the shelves at
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 6:40 PM
          Charley Robinson &lt;<a href="mailto:Charley38@twc.com";
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Sorry, I don't agree unless you see
            Valvoline as a specialty motor oil supplier.<br>
            <br>
            CR<br>
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            <div class="gmail-m_7183647943737747142moz-cite-prefix">On
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                <div>As classifications change, old oil formulations
                  become obsolete, the appropriate oil for flat tappet
                  engines has become pretty much the product of
                  specialty oil companies like Royal Purple, Driven/Joe
                  Gibbs, Red Line, Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).<br>
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                Chris
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 5,
                      2019 at 10:32 PM Charley Robinson via Mgs &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I've been reading up on it
                        to refresh my memory.  A lot of folks just take
                        other peoples' word for it.<br>
                        <br>
                        CR<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite"> Only certain weights.
                          You have to read the labels, or usually the
                          spec sheets.
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                              <div>--</div>
                              <div>Max Heim</div>
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                                <div>On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM, FrankK
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                                        <div>I assume all those brands
                                          include the correct ZDDP
                                          proportions./ </div>
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                                              <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                                  title="mvheim@sonic.net"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Max
                                                  Heim</a> </div>
                                              <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                                                July 5, 2019 9:02 PM</div>
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                                                  title="frankk12@verizon.net"
                                                  
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                                                ; <a
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style="font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;display:inline">Right,
                                          but there are other brands. I
                                          use Mobil1 15W50. Others use
                                          Royal Purple, Joe Gibbs,
                                          Kendall or AMSoil brands.
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                                              <div>Max Heim</div>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Chris
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