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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mix n Match
From: Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 11:10:05 -0400
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Hello folks,

Naturally I am interested in the chat on wiring in the MGB but not on a 
"Oh that will help me" basis.   When I built my MGB GT V8 I decided that 
a cutting-cost wiring loom was not for me.    There is a bod who was the 
Triumph's electric systems designer who of course was restrained by 
costs.   He was not happy with the end system but the bean counters 
were.   So he designed a general purpose /point to point/ system that 
would work for any car.   It had a central 'control board' with fuses 
and relays. So that went into my MGB GT V8 and yes it was more expensive 
than the bog standard loom with lots of fuses and relays - but oh what a 
neat system!!!   While it makes the car non-standard it does result in 
an incredible electrics.  All my many fuses and relays fit up in the 
passenger foot well in the 'control board'.    I cannot find contact 
details of the system easily but if anyone is interested I will dig them 
up somehow.

Cheers
Barrie



On 4/17/2022 8:13 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote:
>       Something you donâ??t know, unless you have owned the car since new, if 
> if someone has messed with the wiring.
>       If you have two wires to the flasher and do not find an orphan wire up 
> in there somewhere, that is what you have to work with.
>       Have you established that you have 12V to one of the wires on the 
> flasher?  Paul said that the two-pin flasher is in series with the flashing 
> signals, so 12V on one of them when the signal switch is right or left 
> turning is required.
>       While you are doing this work, ignition will be on, so be sure to 
> disconnect one wire to the coil.
>       Have you been able to establish that there is voltage to the signal 
> sockets?
> Bob
>
>
>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Michael MacLean<springer.mike51@gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm confused. (nothing new) in trying to get my turn signals working I 
>> checked the wiring diagrams out for the early and late MGs.  In the wiring 
>> diagram for the early cars it shows a 3 pin flasher relay with a two fuse 
>> unit.  In the late MG wiring diagram it shows a two pin flasher unit and a 
>> four fuse unit.  Looking at my car (a 69) it has a two pin flasher unit, but 
>> the car has a two fuse block unit.  What the heck?
>> Mike MacLean
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    <font size="5">Hello folks,<br>
      <br>
      Naturally I am interested in the chat on wiring in the MGB but not
      on a "Oh that will help me" basis.   When I built my MGB GT V8 I
      decided that a cutting-cost wiring loom was not for me.    There
      is a bod who was the Triumph's electric systems designer who of
      course was restrained by costs.   He was not happy with the end
      system but the bean counters were.   So he designed a general
      purpose <i>point to point</i> system that would work for any
      car.   It had a central 'control board' with fuses and relays.  
      So that went into my MGB GT V8 and yes it was more expensive than
      the bog standard loom with lots of fuses and relays - but oh what
      a neat system!!!   While it makes the car non-standard it does
      result in an incredible electrics.  All my many fuses and relays
      fit up in the passenger foot well in the 'control board'.    I
      cannot find contact details of the system easily but if anyone is
      interested I will dig them up somehow.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers<br>
      Barrie<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/17/2022 8:13 PM, Robert's New iPad
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">       Something you donâ??t know, 
unless you have owned the car since new, if if someone has messed with the 
wiring.  
        If you have two wires to the flasher and do not find an orphan wire up 
in there somewhere, that is what you have to work with. 
        Have you established that you have 12V to one of the wires on the 
flasher?  Paul said that the two-pin flasher is in series with the flashing 
signals, so 12V on one of them when the signal switch is right or left turning 
is required.
        While you are doing this work, ignition will be on, so be sure to 
disconnect one wire to the coil.
        Have you been able to establish that there is voltage to the signal 
sockets? 
Bob


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        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Apr 17, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Michael 
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I'm confused. (nothing new) in trying to get my turn signals working I checked 
the wiring diagrams out for the early and late MGs.  In the wiring diagram for 
the early cars it shows a 3 pin flasher relay with a two fuse unit.  In the 
late MG wiring diagram it shows a two pin flasher unit and a four fuse unit.  
Looking at my car (a 69) it has a two pin flasher unit, but the car has a two 
fuse block unit.  What the heck?
Mike MacLean
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