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Re: [oletrucks] IFS Swap

To: "David" <David@gardener.com>,
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS Swap
From: "Jay Baker" <jaybaker@ruralnetwork.net>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:08:50 -0600
 what do i need to look for as far as height i really got a little concerned
about that from previous post i really dont want to get into modifying A
arms etc cutting a turn out of the coil sounds easy enough but thats the
extent id be willing to go as far as modifying it otherwise i'll go with
plan a and just keep it stock with radial tires
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <David@gardener.com>
To: "Old Trucks List" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS Swap


> Jay,
>
> You could also purchase adapters that let you use different wheels with
the
> frame you select.
>
> Or you could drill out for the wheels you want.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Baker" <jaybaker@ruralnetwork.net>
> To: "Steve Hanberg" <steve@OldSub.com>; "'Mark Self'"
> <mark.self@verizon.net>
> Cc: "Old Trucks List" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS Swap
>
>
> > I'm considering this swap for my 38 1/2 so any info is appreciated i
have
> a
> > couple of ways i can go i have a 70 1/2 6 lug wheels drum brakes that i
> > could use. (running driving truck ) or i have a 72 1/2 frame (rolling
> > chassis butchered frame)
> >  I think the concern on the 67-71 is 6 hole what is kinda what i want so
i
> > can use stock wheels or the custom wheels curently on the 70. So what
i'm
> > thinking of doing emphasise on thinking i'm going to do all my homework
> > before committing is this putting the 72 frontend and rear end in the 70
> to
> > give it disc brakes and 5 lug pattern and using it's suspension in the
38
> > any thing i'm over looking.
> >  I measured the 38 frame and it's about 1 narrower than the 72 frame i'm
> > assuming the 70 is the same and i thought you could either bolt or weld
> some
> > spacers on to take up the difference and be in bussiness i understand
the
> > steering box will be a bit of a problem but not to much i may have top
cut
> > part of the inner fender to allow for the column but a small sacrifice
for
> > ifs power brakes and a truck front end . Or i could just leave the 70
> alone
> > and use the 72 stuff on the 38 . only down fall here is i cant use my
> stock
> > 6 lug wheels? Am i missing anything such as width problems height
problems
> > etc i understand your example is with a task force truck so this may be
> > opening up an whole other can of worms but any thoughts are appreciated.
> > (clear as Mud)
> >  I also forgot to mention that i dont want to butcher frame in 38 so i
can
> > return to stock someday if i want to or somebody else does.
> >
> >  Thx Jay Baker
> > 38 1/2 and there not enough room to list the rest
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Hanberg" <steve@OldSub.com>
> > To: "'Mark Self'" <mark.self@verizon.net>
> > Cc: "Old Trucks List" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: [oletrucks] IFS Swap
> >
> >
> > > Actually I guess its 55 Boyo, and I can't explain the name...
> > > http://www.homeacres.net/chevy/ is where its found.  Look at his menus
> > > at the top on both sides.  He has pictures with little text on one
side,
> > > and lots of text with few pictures on the other.
> > >
> > > I have 235x70x15 tires right now, and like the way the tires fit in
the
> > > wheel wells.  I'd like to maintain the truck aspect so a truck
> > > suspension feels right to me.
> > >
> > > Boyo says 72-87, and that is what I've repeated.  I have a '72 pickup
> > > that has 5-lug wheels and front disk brakes, and I think I've read
that
> > > its frame is different than the 67-71s.  But this is one of the
reasons
> > > I've poised the question because I simply don't know.
> > >
> > > I have a line on a '75 3/4-ton van.  It has 5-lug wheels.  I'm
thinking
> > > it might be the right donor vehicle, because I'd like the load
capacity,
> > > but again, I don't know if the pieces are the same, or close enough...
> > >
> > > I have an early 70's Chevelle wagon that I got for the engine and
> > > transmission.  I've wondered if the sub-frame might be a good
> > > alternative, but keep coming back to wanting a truck, not a car.  A
> > > buddy has an early 70's Impala that he is ready to junk.  Your comment
> > > about a Caprice sub makes me wonder if I should look at that car.
> > >
> > > Now some questions.
> > >
> > > Did you do this with the front-end sheet mettle in place?  Was the
> > > engine installed at the time?  How long do you think the job should
take
> > > (for a keyboard pounder, not an active guy)?  How did you deal with
the
> > > steering column?
> > >
> > > Steve Hanberg
> > > Steve@OldSub.com
> > > www.OldSub.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Self [mailto:mark.self@verizon.net]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:56 PM
> > > > To: Steve Hanberg
> > > > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] IFS Swap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve:
> > > >     What are Boyo 55 pages that you refer too?  I'd like to read
them.
> > > >     I beleive that the years that you want are '73-87, not
> > > > '72, but not
> > > > positive.
> > > >     I've just finished this swap.  It is truly a bolt in.  No
welding.
> > > >     There are a few considerations that i would like to share
> > > > with you.
> > > >
> > > > 1.  This is one heavy duty front end.  So if weight is a
> > > > consedieration.
> > > > think about it.
> > > > 2.  If you want your truck to sit high then you're in great
> > > > shape.  I'm
> > > > running 215x75x15 tires on my frontend.  To get about 2" of
clearance
> > > > between the top of the tire and the fender opening, I had to
> > > > cut 2 coils out
> > > > of the stock springs.  AND have my A-frames dropped about 2"
> > > > 3.  As I said before, I a running 215x75x15 tires on US Wheel
> > > > smoothies that
> > > > are 15x6 with 3.75" backspacing.  To get the tires inside the
> > > > fender, the
> > > > above mentioned modified A-frames had to be narrowed
> > > > approximately 1" on
> > > > weach side.  These modifications cost nearly $700.00
> > > >
> > > >     If you're looking for a stock or 4x4 look then this is a
> > > > great setup.
> > > > If I had it to do again, I'd go with a Caprice sub or possibly a
MII.
> > > >     If you have any questions, feel free to ask away.  It's a
> > > > nice front
> > > > end, you just need to know what it's going to be like in the
> > > > end.  I didn't.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Steve Hanberg" <steve@OldSub.com>
> > > > To: "Old Trucks List" <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:51 PM
> > > > Subject: [oletrucks] IFS Swap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I want to update the front suspension on my 55 1st-series GMC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like the idea of swapping the front suspension from a
> > > > 72-87 1/2-ton,
> > > > > because it is independent, has disk brakes, is a truck
> > > > suspension and
> > > > > apparently is not difficult to do (and I have one parked outside
I'm
> > > > > almost ready to junk).
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen the Boyo 55 pages about this swap, which helps a
> > > > lot, but I'm
> > > > > wondering if anyone has done this, or knows of a good source of
> > > > > information on the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've considered a complete frame swap, but there are too
> > > > many unknowns,
> > > > > unless someone has done it, or can point me to someone who has...
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Hanberg
> > > > >  <mailto:Steve@OldSub.com> Steve@OldSub.com
> > > > >  <http://www.oldsub.com/> www.OldSub.com
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> > > > 1941 and 1959
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