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Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show
From: "Jack Brooks" <jibjib@att.net>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:13:47 -0700
Bill,

I don't believe you were called a liar; perhaps having missed something, but
there is a huge difference between the two.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: shop-talk-bounces+jibjib=att.net@autox.team.net
[mailto:shop-talk-bounces+jibjib=att.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Gingerich
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:35 PM
To: 'Randall'; shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show

Randall,

I appreciate the references you've included.  Since I have essentially been
called a liar, I'm glad to see the details are essentially as I reported
them.  The story I read did not include the dates of the legislation, so I
was unaware that the law had been in effect for that long.  The story did
state that the language of the law is vague enough that it could be applied
to a private party working on their own vehicle.  I did forget the 80 volt
specification in my original comment.

I've only lived in OK for 18 months, and am still learning what the laws are
around here.  Each day can be an adventure.

BillG
Newalla, OK



-----Original Message-----
From: shop-talk-bounces+bill=gingerich.us@autox.team.net
[mailto:shop-talk-bounces+bill=gingerich.us@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Randall
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:15 AM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Nova - PBS show

> I'm going to call BS on this one.  I just went digging around in 
> Oklahoma laws for fuels, vehicles, vehicle repairs and such and found 
> absolutely nothing like this claim.

Check out the "Alternative Fuels Technician Certification Act", which
provides :
>>>
'74-130.20.  Work of technician by noncertified person.

After September 1, 1991, it shall be unlawful for any person to perform the
work or offer, by advertisement or otherwise, to perform the work of an
alternative fuels equipment technician until such person has qualified and
is certified as an alternative fuels equipment technician.  Beginning
September 1, 1995, it shall be unlawful for any person to perform work or
offer, by advertisement or otherwise, to perform the work of an alternative
fuels compression technician until such person has qualified and is
certified as an alternative fuels compression technician.  Beginning
November 1, 1998, it shall be unlawful for any person to perform the work or
offer, by advertisement or otherwise, to perform the work of an electric
vehicle technician until such person has qualified and is certified as an
electric vehicle technician.
<<<

Suitable definitions are included :
>>>
2.  "Alternative fuels equipment technician" means any person who installs,
modifies, repairs or renovates equipment used in the conversion of any
engines to engines fueled by alternative fuels. This includes originally
equipped manufactured engines dedicated to operate on an alternative fuel;
<<< and
>>>
"Electric vehicle technician" means any person who installs, modifies,
repairs, performs maintenance on, or renovates onboard charging systems,
motors, controllers, power sources, or the drive systems of vehicles powered
by electricity that is greater than eighty (80) volts.
<<<

Let there be no doubt, OK is an oil state.  This last provision is
particularly offensive, since it could be reasonably interpreted to include
even a 12v kiddie car with a charger operated on house current.

Above quotes copied from the OK Legislature web site at
http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/

Randall
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