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Re: Tying the Tiger

To: stubrennan@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Tying the Tiger
From: lb7777@wcrtc.net
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:21:57 -0500
Stu;
Yours is the most accurate assessment of this yet. Make sure that it is 
secure horizontally not vertically. Here is an interesting web site for 
tie downs for a Porsche race car they will allow the suspension to work. 
Wonder why?
http://p-car.com/products/tiedown/
The rear axle would be great since it doesn't move up and down. 
(somebody mention securing both rear axles. wonder what kind of car that 
was).  Paul said that uhual would have you tie the rear axle then use 
tire straps on the front. Again I wonder why a major company recommends 
this. (could it be because it works). Paul said that the car jiggled (as 
it should) but the ride was still stable over rough roads. Maybe theo 
should relay his theory on 2 separate masses to all the racers and 
trailer suppliers who don't seem to be having a problem.

If you are determined not to let the suspension work then be sure that 
all the springs are compressed. Even when towing something as easy as my 
motorcycles I will compress the springs when strapping it down. On a car 
you really don't want those straps to go slack then abruptly snap tight. 
Good way to lose a car or destroy the inside of an enclosed trailer.
Larry Blackman

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stubrennan@attbi.com wrote:

>I've only towed once, so I'm hardly an expert.  But here's a few thoughts to 
>further muddy the waters.
>
>If you secure your car by pulling down on the body, not the diff or front 
>wheels, then what happens when you hit a really big bump?  The tie downs go 
>slack for a moment, then when the body comes back up there's a sudden impulse 
>of force.  I'll bet you could break stuff that way.
>
>In my opinion, you really want to secure the car from moving horizontally, and 
>let it ride on it's suspension. The tiedowns should be as horizontal as 
>possible, and attached to something that doesn't move up and down too much.
>
>Stu   
>
>  
>
>>Ok, LArry, why is it important to let the car use it's suspension? I been
>>planning on sitting the world's fastest sunbeam on it's frame on blocks and
>>making it rigid. It is my uderstanding that if the car is allowed tom ove
>>around, up and down, it is about the same as diving it with regards to the
>>shocks and springs...they wear out. What did I miss? Awaiting the answer.
>>
>>mayf, the red necked ignorant desert rat in Pahrump...bought mine in Jan
>>'67, second owner, not TAC'd either....
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <lb7777@wcrtc.net>
>>To: "Anthony & Susan" <jetbike@worldlynx.net>
>>Cc: "Tigers mailing list (E-mail)" <tigers@autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:48 PM
>>Subject: Re: Tying the Tiger
>>
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>>>Anthony & Susan;
>>>When I used to tow my race car I always tied just the wheels. It towed
>>>so much better when the car could use its own suspension. I didn't use
>>>any bonnets. I just just racketed a strap over the wheels (let a little
>>>air out of the tires). Towed may miles this way with zero problems. It
>>>is important to allow the car to use its own suspension (learned that
>>>from experience).
>>>Larry Blackman
>>>'65
>>>B9471018
>>>Purchased 12/2/64
>>>
>>>PS; was never tac'd I am the only owner
>>>
>>>
>>>Anthony & Susan wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>>>Listeners,
>>>>
>>>>Just as I have gotten use to tying the Tiger down there has been a
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>>change. I
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>>>>normally loop the tie downs around the rear and cross them to the D
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>>rings.
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>>>>Up front around the bottom "A" arms straight to the "D" ring. Works
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>>great,
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>>>>got me all the way down to South Carolina from PA and back with zero car
>>>>movement. Now I have the entire suspension and rear sprayed with black
>>>>urethane. Looks great! I am looking for a way to secure the car without
>>>>damaging my new paint. Someone told me to use tire bonnets but after
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>>looking
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>>>>at them it seems I'll have to cut the trailer floor and position 8 "D"
>>>>rings( 2 per wheel). Also I have LAT 9's which have 13" tires, the
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>>bonnets
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>>>>looked way big. When you need to ratchet them down is there enough room
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>>to
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>>>>operate them with the car that low to the ground? What type of damage
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>>would
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>>>>you see if just using the axel straps anyway? Man I hope I'm not getting
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>>to
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>>>>anal with this, even though a complete restoration will soon be under way
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>>I
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>>>>still want to drive the car and not sweat it. Help!
>>>>
>>>>Thanx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>ANT 66 MK1A
>>>>B382001859LRXFE

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