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Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs

To: Tom Parker <tkparker1941@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs
From: Tod Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:09:46 -0400
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Tom:

As I said in my previous email, 00001 and 00002 were assembled by 
Rootes, not Jensen, and do not carry JAL tags, according to the note in 
the SS catalog. In the pics I got for 00002, I could see no JAL tag. 
Whether Jensen took into account 00001 and 00002 when they began 
assigning JAL numbers to the cars they assembled, I could not say. I 
have seen, in the past, many examples where serial numbers and JAL 
numbers are not in sequence. My guess is that Jensen was not at all 
careful with assigning JAL numbers as they assembled the cars.

Tod



On 7/16/2016 9:49 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
> Ron,
>
> My JAL tag is 700008, my Serial Number is B382100105. If the sequence 
> is accurate the implication is Jensen built s/n's B382100001 & 0002 in 
> addition to 100 - 105. I'm assuming, of course, that the JAL Tag shows 
> the sequence of assembly AT Jensen,,
>
> Tom
> '67 Mark 2
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Tod Brown via Tigers 
>
>     Actually, there were two MkII's assembled by Rootes before
>     production was turned
>     over to Jensen. They carry serial numbers B382100001 and
>     B382100002 but no JAL
>     numbers. The Jensen run began with B382100100 and ended with
>     ...633. See the
>     note in the SS Catalog:
>
>     MARK II PRODUCTION NUMBERS VARY. CARS WITH
>     SERIAL # B382100001
>     AND #B382100002 EXIST WITH NO JAL #â??S (JENSEN ALPINE LTD. BODY #)
>     WHICH INDICATES THE CARS WERE COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED BY ROOTES,
>     NEVER GOING TO THE JENSEN PLANT AND MUST HAVE BEEN A PRE-
>     PRODUCTION PILOT CARS. THE NEXT MK II IS B382100
>     100 WHICH CARRIES
>     A JAL NUMBER, THE FIRST OF THE MK II SERIES.
>
>     There were also six (IIRC) MkIA's fitted with the MkII mechanicals
>     (289 block, wide-
>     ratio trans, modifiedWatts linkage, etc.) but were badged as
>     MkIA'sat the end of
>     the MkIA run at Jensen.
>
>     Tod Brown
>     B382002384LRXFE
>     TAC 864
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tom:<br>
      <br>
      As I said in my previous email, 00001 and 00002 were assembled by
      Rootes, not Jensen, and do not carry JAL tags, according to the
      note in the SS catalog. In the pics I got for 00002, I could see
      no JAL tag. Whether Jensen took into account 00001 and 00002 when
      they began assigning JAL numbers to the cars they assembled, I
      could not say. I have seen, in the past, many examples where
      serial numbers and JAL numbers are not in sequence. My guess is
      that Jensen was not at all careful with assigning JAL numbers as
      they assembled the cars.<br>
      <br>
      Tod<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 7/16/2016 9:49 AM, Tom Parker wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Ron, 
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        <div>My JAL tag is 700008, my Serial Number is B382100105. If
          the sequence is accurate the implication is Jensen built s/n's
          B382100001 &amp; 0002 in addition to 100 - 105. I'm assuming,
          of course, that the JAL Tag shows the sequence of assembly AT
          Jensen,,
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Tom</div>
          <div>'67 Mark 2</div>
        </div>
      </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Tod
          Brown via Tigers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font face="Arial"><font
                  face="Arial">Actually<font face="Arial">, there were
                    two MkII's assembled by Rootes before production was
                    turned <br>
                    <font face="Arial">over to Jensen. They carry serial
                      numbers B382100001 and B382100002 but no JAL<br>
                      <font face="Arial">numbers. The Jensen run began
                        with B382100100 and ended with ...633<font
                          face="Arial">. See the<br>
                          <font face="Arial">note in the SS Catalog:<br>
                          </font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">MARK
                II PRODUCTION NUMBERS VARY. CARS WITH</div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">SERIAL
                # B382100001 </div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">AND
                #B382100002 EXIST WITH NO JAL #â??S (JENSEN ALPINE LTD.
                BODY #) </div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">WHICH
                INDICATES THE CARS WERE COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED BY ROOTES,
              </div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">NEVER
                GOING TO THE JENSEN PLANT AND MUST HAVE BEEN A PRE-</div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">PRODUCTION
                PILOT CARS. THE NEXT MK II IS B382100</div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">100
                WHICH CARRIES </div>
              <div style="font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">A JAL
                NUMBER, THE FIRST OF THE MK II SERIES.<br>
                <br>
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              <font face="Arial"><font face="Arial"><font face="Arial"><font
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                                                    face="Arial">There
                                                    were also six (IIRC)
                                                    MkIA<font
                                                      face="Arial">'<font
                                                        face="Arial">s f<font
                                                          face="Arial">itted
                                                          with the MkII
                                                          mechanicals
                                                          (289 block,
                                                          wide-<br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Arial">ratio

                                                          trans,
                                                          modified<font
                                                          face="Arial">
                                                          Watts link<font
                                                          
face="Arial">age</font>,
                                                          etc<font
                                                          face="Arial">.)

                                                          but were
                                                          badged as
                                                          MkIA's<font
                                                          face="Arial">
                                                          at the end of<br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Arial">the

                                                          MkIA run at
                                                          Jensen. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Arial">Tod

                                                          Brown<br>
                                                          <font
                                                          
face="Arial">B382002384LRXFE<br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Arial">TAC

                                                          
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