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Re: Ladies Classes

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Subject: Re: Ladies Classes
From: Randall Noll <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:04:37 -0700 (PDT)
good point. 

How about this: Why not have separate classes (mens and womens) 
but show results as one group with an L in front of the ladies cars 
(or some designator--doesn't have to be necessarily for the womens 
group). The results might look like this:

OA CLS   Num  Name
1  T1    24    Joe
2  T1L   48L   Jane
3  T2    36    Jack
4  T3    88    John
5  T2L   46L   Jill
6   4    22    Jim
7   5    37    Fred
8  T3L   22L   Sue
9   4L   18L   Sarah
10  6    19    Sam

CLS designates your "Class" placing. "T" would designate Trophy, 
"L" would designate ladies. Here the top 3 in each class would trophy. 
I know other forms of road racing do this when they run multiple 
classes together. They always announce the overall winner AND each of
the class winners.

This will solve what will become our ultimate problem: when women
become faster than men (or as fast) how will we crown a national 
champ if the two classes (men's and women's) are running on different 
days with different temperatures/track conditions/etc.?

Randy

--- Janice Sansone Rick <janice@wcsllc.net> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:42:34 -0500
> From: Alek Tziortzis <alextz@comm.mot.com>
> Subject: Ladies Classes
> 
> I would like to see the following rule:
> 
> If you win an L1, L2, or Solo II national championship in a ladies
> class,
> then you must compete in the open class at all future national level
> pros, tours, finale, championships.
> 
> Alex Tziortzis
> 
> Well, that still makes the Ladies class some sort of feeder class - I
> still
> think that the issue is that if it's called Ladies then it ought to
> be for
> ladies only and men's should be men's.  And Many ladies don't ever
> run the
> Pro's so a lot of them would not get moved in your suggestion.
> 
> Patrick Washburn made some good points that if the ladies class is to
> not
> discourage them then why aren't men given the same consideration.
> 
> Katie Kelly made an excellent point that she has moved to open and it
> has
> pushed her to run better.
> 
> But, my original point is still that women have a choice men aren't
> allowed to
> have.
> 
> The ladies classes were designed to promote the family thing and
> allow couples
> to not have to compete head to head.  Being that we have more female
> drivers
> than most motorsports, that works.
> 
> I just think by calling it ladies and giving us a choice we have an
> unfair
> advantage.
> 
> I guess I am discussing men's rights (Oh My!  Not a usual thing for
> me)
> 
> Maybe it should be "feeder class" and "the good class" but it's not
> it's Ladies and Open.
> 
> I suggest we make them Ladies and Men's and beef up the competition
> in ladies
> to make them "as good"
> 
> Susan Anderson (a 100% National entrant) has always said that
> "Men go as fast as they can, women go as fast as they need to win" 
> That's the
> difference in the drivers.
> 
> Over the years in Solo women have progressed so much, they will
> continue to do
> that (I hope) and you don't see that in other sports.  So maybe
> ladies classes
> will accomplish that.
> 
> I would like to see it changed to Ladies/Men's classes and see them
> get more
> equal in times!
> 
> Let's make the ladies class more important and more competitive and
> maybe
> instead of the "good" lady drivers moving we would get more ladies to
> get
> better.
> 
> Janice Sansone Rick
> 
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