I was trying to say: "We have different opinions that neither is likely to
change, so let's stop arguing and agree to disagree...."
I'm not going to argue with your "statistics" as it is pointless....
Dave.
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Stevens" <Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net>
To: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>
Cc: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ladies Classes
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Dave Whitworth wrote:
>
> > The bottom line is that I see AS and ASL as two totally separate
classes,
> > and many see them as the same class, with a subset? From my point of
view,
> > I don't look at results and say, GS won with a 99.876 overall time, and
CS
> > won with a 101.545 therefore the CS win is flawed.
> >
> > KeS and Mark and probably tons of others choose to compare them
directly.
> >
> > Opinions vary...........
> >
> > DaveW
>
> But not all opinions are equally valid. This sport is called "SOLO" for a
> reason. It's run primarily against the clock, not against other drivers.
> Unlike NASCAR or most other racing venues, where the direct goal is to
> finish in front of the other drivers regardless of the speed, the goal is
> to run a given car on a given course at the greatest speed/lowest time
> possible. It's much like golf (stroke play or whatever they call it when
> the lowest score wins rather than winning individual holes).
>
> Given the same equipment and the same surface, which happens often enough
> to bring statistics to bear, someone running slower times has not achieved
> the same level of performance. That they won the class by the same margin
> isn't really relevant to anything but possibly the psychological pressure
> involved.
>
> Granted that in a single event it is often invalid to make direct
> comparisons from class to class (your GS/CS example), due to course
> dependencies, weather, attendance, etc. - we certainly do make them on a
> larger and longer scale - that's how cars are classed.
>
> Similarly, it is equally valid to look at the Ladies' class performance vs
> Open class performance, on a larger/longer scale, and clearly see that the
> times are not comparable. This is not really subject to debate -
> it's a simple matter of looking at the results.
>
> Your contention is that "performance" is based on margin of victory within
> the class. Mine is that "performance" is based on timed results against
> the course. Your definition is more readily validated at any individual
> event, mine is not - there are always reasons/excuses for any single
> position finish.
>
> KeS
>
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