Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt

[I Erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>]

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well doesn't that sound like fun :(
I have used the leverage and unscrew method on computer bits and thought of
that late last night. Hopefully that will do. Generator is off the bracket
so at least its all accessible.
Will let you know how it goes

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ira,
> From your description it would appear that you have used a "soft" bolt
> upon which the threads have stripped.
> My bet is that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that
> has penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the blo=
ck
> albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.
> There is a chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a
> good chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced
> into the threads in the block casting those threads, in the block, will b=
e
> severely damaged.
> If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.
> My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is about 5% =E2=
=98=B9
> This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle th=
e
> problem.
> First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing the bracket.
> Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and drill through it wit=
h
> progressively larger bits until the head falls off.
> Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt protruding.
> After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut the bolt off
> flush with the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.
> You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the
> tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.
> Now run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after cleanin=
g
> everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....
> Good luck.
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
> ------------------------------
> From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> Sent: =E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
>
> Try getting an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage,
> then turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a modera=
te
> force on the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt started.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:
>
> Just spins. Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not
> sound good
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
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> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote=
:
>
>> WRT, the bolt not 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt?  Or
>> does it turn but not back out?
>>
>> Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread chaser doesn't fix the proble=
m
>> I'm afraid you'll probably need to install a helicoil (or similar) when =
you
>> do get the bad one out.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:
>>
>> Generator plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off,
>> used copper gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one ab=
ove
>> the leak spot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing we=
ird
>> one went well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper bolt wou=
ld
>> not tighten and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bo=
lt.
>> Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the threads ? Shit I=
'd
>> just like to drive the bugger.
>>
>> Mr. Ira Erbs
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">wel=
l doesn&#39;t that sound like fun :(</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:large">I have used the leverage and unscrew method on comput=
er bits and thought of that late last night. Hopefully that will do. Genera=
tor is off the bracket so at least its all accessible.=C2=A0</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Will let you know how it goes=
</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D=
"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ira Erbs<br>P=
ortland, OR<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 _______=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 _______<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<b=
r>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)<br></div></=
div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Michael <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
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  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Hi Ira,<br>From your description it woul=
d appear that you have used a &quot;soft&quot; bolt upon which the threads =
have stripped.<br>My bet is that there are still good threads on the part o=
f the bolt that has penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good thre=
ads in the block albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.<br>=
There is a chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a g=
ood chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced int=
o the threads in the block casting those threads, in the block, will be sev=
erely damaged. <br>If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead=
 of you.<br>My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is abo=
ut 5% =E2=98=B9 <br>This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how=
 I would tackle the problem.<br>First remove the generator and all the othe=
r bolts securing the bracket.<br>Then center punch the head of the offendin=
g bolt and drill through it with progressively larger bits until the head f=
alls off.<br>Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt pr=
otruding.<br>After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut th=
e bolt off flush with the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.<br=
>You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the tappe=
t cavity to get caught in the rags.<br>Now run a tap through the hole to cl=
ean up the threads and, after cleaning everything thoroughly, you should be=
 good to go....<br>Good luck.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174<br></div></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t;font-weight:bold">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-se=
rif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">Oudesluys</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Cal=
ibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 =
a.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt=
;font-weight:bold">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
">healeys@autox.team.net</a></span><span class=3D""><br><span style=3D"font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Subject: </span=
><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Re: [Healeys=
] Stripped bolt</span><br><br></span></div><div><div class=3D"h5">
    <div>Try getting an old knife blade under
      the head to create some leverage, then turn the head
      anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a moderate force on
      the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt started.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:<br>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_default">Just spins. Never got tight, just a
          bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not sound good</div>
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                  <div>Ira Erbs<br>
                    Portland, OR<br>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob
          Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.=
net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div> WRT, the bolt not &#39;untightening;&#39; are you unable =
to
              turn the bolt?=C2=A0 Or does it turn but not back out?<br>
              <br>
              Doesn&#39;t sound good either way; if a thread chaser doesn&#=
39;t
              fix the problem I&#39;m afraid you&#39;ll probably need to in=
stall
              a helicoil (or similar) when you do get the bad one out.<span=
><br>
                <br>
                Bob</span><span><br>
                <br>
                <div>On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:<br>
                </div>
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                  <p dir=3D"ltr">Generator plate leaked after I last
                    removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, used copper
                    gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized
                    the one above the leak spot was not fitting right.
                    retightening bolts and replacing weird one went
                    well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One
                    upper bolt would not tighten and now it won&#39;t
                    untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bolt. Any
                    suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the
                    threads ? Shit I&#39;d just like to drive the bugger. <=
/p>
                  <p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
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