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Yes you need to be careful using both hands. I've done this in other situat=
ions. Use wet towels to cover area where sparks are directed... plus safety=
glasses and face shield.=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>=20
To: "Tim Davis BN7" <tld6008@mchsi.com>=20
Cc: "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 9:50:23 AM=20
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Stripped bolt=20
Fairly brutal thing in a confined space. Wouldn=E2=80=99t want to slip off =
the bolt head and scar some other priceless piece of aged British Midlands =
technology? And plenty of sparks...=20
Simon=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Davi=
s BN7=20
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 14:14=20
To: Michael=20
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt=20
If you have working room to drill through the bolt head until if falls off =
wouldn't a 4" angle grinder be faster at removing it?=20
Just a thought=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael" < michael.salter@gmail.com >=20
To: "Oudesluys" < coudesluijs@chello.nl >, healeys@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 7:48:19 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt=20
Hi Ira,=20
>From your description it would appear that you have used a "soft" bolt upon=
which the threads have stripped.=20
My bet is that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that ha=
s penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the block a=
lbeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.=20
There is a chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a g=
ood chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced int=
o the threads in the block casting those threads, in the block, will be sev=
erely damaged.=20
If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.=20
My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is about 5% =E2=98=
=B9=20
This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle the =
problem.=20
First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing the bracket.=20
Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and drill through it with =
progressively larger bits until the head falls off.=20
Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt protruding.=20
After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut the bolt off fl=
ush with the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.=20
You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the tappet=
cavity to get caught in the rags.=20
Now run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after cleaning =
everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....=20
Good luck.=20
Michael S=20
BN1 #174=20
From: Oudesluys=20
Sent: =E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.=20
To: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt=20
Try getting an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage, then=
turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a moderate for=
ce on the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt started.=20
Kees Oudesluijs=20
Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:=20
Just spins. Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not s=
ound good=20
Ira Erbs=20
Portland, OR=20
_______ _______=20
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)=20
(_________________________)=20
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell < bspidell@comcast.net > wrote=
:=20
WRT, the bolt not 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or does =
it turn but not back out?=20
Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread chaser doesn't fix the problem I=
'm afraid you'll probably need to install a helicoil (or similar) when you =
do get the bad one out.=20
Bob=20
On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:=20
<blockquote>
Generator plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, us=
ed copper gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one above t=
he leak spot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing weird =
one went well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper bolt would =
not tighten and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bolt.=
Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the threads ? Shit I'd=
just like to drive the bugger.=20
Mr. Ira Erbs=20
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lor: #000000"><div>Yes you need to be careful using both hands. I've done t=
his in other situations. Use wet towels to cover area where sparks are dire=
cted... plus safety glasses and face shield.<br></div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-=
style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.u=
k><br><b>To: </b>"Tim Davis BN7" <tld6008@mchsi.com><br><b>Cc: </b=
>"Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, Octob=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
;color:#1F497D">Fairly brutal thing in a confined space. Wouldn=E2=80=99t w=
ant to slip off the bolt head and scar some other priceless piece of aged B=
ritish Midlands technology? And plenty of sparks...</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&=
quot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none=
;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",&q=
uot;sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN=
-US"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>T=
im Davis BN7<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 26, 2015 14:14<br><b>To:</b> M=
ichael<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys=
] Stripped bolt</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">If you have workin=
g room to drill through the bolt head until if falls off wouldn't a 4" angl=
e grinder be faster at removing it?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Just a thought</span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p></div><di=
v class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"center"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black"><hr id=3D"zwchr" align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"1=
00%"></span></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family=
:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From: </span></b=
><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";co=
lor:black">"Michael" <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Oudesluys" <=
<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chel=
lo.nl</a>>, <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 26, 2015 7:48:19=
AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt</span></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
;sans-serif";color:black">Hi Ira,<br>From your description it would ap=
pear that you have used a "soft" bolt upon which the threads have stripped.=
<br>My bet is that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt tha=
t has penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the blo=
ck albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.<br>There is a cha=
nce that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a good chance tha=
t as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced into the threads =
in the block casting those threads, in the block, will be severely damaged.=
<br>If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.<br>My=
success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is about 5% </span><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:blac=
k">=E2=98=B9</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:black"> <br>This may sound somewhat la=
bor intensive but here is how I would tackle the problem.<br>First remove t=
he generator and all the other bolts securing the bracket.<br>Then center p=
unch the head of the offending bolt and drill through it with progressively=
larger bits until the head falls off.<br>Now the bracket can be removed le=
aving the stub of the bolt protruding.<br>After stuffing the tappet cavity =
with rags I would then cut the bolt off flush with the face of the block us=
ing a vibrating Multitool.<br>You should then be able to tap the rest of th=
e bolt through into the tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.<br>Now run=
a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after cleaning everyth=
ing thoroughly, you should be good to go....<br>Good luck.<br>Michael S<br>=
BN1 #174</span></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-=
align:center" align=3D"center"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:black"><hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" wi=
dth=3D"100%"></span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black=
">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:black"><a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@c=
hello.nl" target=3D"_blank">Oudesluys</a></span><span style=3D"font-family:=
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br></span><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
if";color:black">Sent: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">=E2=80=8E26=
/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"=
;Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br></span><b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:black">To: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a></span>=
<span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";col=
or:black"><br></span><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif";color:black">Subject: </span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black">Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"></span></p><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica"=
,"sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","s=
ans-serif";color:black">Try getting an old knife blade under the head =
to create some leverage, then turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner=
while keeping a moderate force on the knife blade. This usually suffices t=
o get the bolt started.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br></span></p><div><br></div><br=
>Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:<p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"mar=
gin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k">Just spins. Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does no=
t sound good</span></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">&=
nbsp;</span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:bla=
ck">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br> _______ &n=
bsp; =
_______<br> (______ \____1959 BN4__=
__/ _______)<br> (________________________=
_)</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:=
black"> </span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Sun, Oct 2=
5, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"=
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span></p><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-family=
:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WRT, the bolt no=
t 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or does it turn bu=
t not back out?<br></span></p><div><br></div>Doesn't sound good either way;=
if a thread chaser doesn't fix the problem I'm afraid you'll probably need=
to install a helicoil (or similar) when you do get the bad one out.<br><di=
v><br></div><span class=3D"hoenzb">Bob</span><p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"=
;;color:black">On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:</span></p></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p><span style=3D"font-=
family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Generator =
plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, used copper =
gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one above the leak sp=
ot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing weird one went w=
ell. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper bolt would not tighte=
n and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bolt. Any sugge=
stions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the threads ? Shit I'd just like=
to drive the bugger.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:"Helveti=
ca","sans-serif";color:black">Mr. Ira Erbs</span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica","sans=
-serif";color:black"><br></span></p><div><br></div><p></p></blockquote=
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