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Yes, the interesting article said it all and more. =
=E2=80=9CVice=E2=80=9D grips.=20
Simon
From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 14:03
To: Simon Lachlan
Cc: Michael; Oudesluys; Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
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I never heard the term "Mole Wrench" and was wondering what the Brits =
have against the little critters that they would invent still another =
device to extirpate them. =20
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Turns out the name "Mole Wrench" derives from a different source....see:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Coughtrie
=20
Best--Michael
=20
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Simon Lachlan =
<simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
Sounds typically well thought and workable.
But, and isn=E2=80=99t there always a =E2=80=9Cbut=E2=80=9D.....once =
you=E2=80=99ve drilled the head off the bolt and removed the bracket, =
you=E2=80=99ll have enough bolt sticking out to deal with.
Maybe grab it with a mole wrench and, whilst pulling outwards, screw it =
out.
Then back to Michael=E2=80=99s scheme....
Only a thought...probably the only one today.
Simon
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:48
To: Oudesluys; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
=20
Hi Ira,
>From your description it would appear that you have used a "soft" bolt =
upon which the threads have stripped.
My bet is that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that =
has penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the =
block albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.
There is a chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also =
a good chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are =
forced into the threads in the block casting those threads, in the =
block, will be severely damaged.=20
If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.
My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is about 5% =
=E2=98=B9=20
This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle =
the problem.
First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing the bracket.
Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and drill through it =
with progressively larger bits until the head falls off.
Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt protruding.
After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut the bolt off =
flush with the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.
You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the =
tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.
Now run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after =
cleaning everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....
Good luck.
Michael S
BN1 #174
_____ =20
Sent: =E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
Try getting an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage, =
then turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a =
moderate force on the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt =
started.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:
Just spins. Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does =
not sound good
=20
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
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On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> =
wrote:
WRT, the bolt not 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or =
does it turn but not back out?
Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread chaser doesn't fix the =
problem I'm afraid you'll probably need to install a helicoil (or =
similar) when you do get the bad one out.
Bob
On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:
Generator plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, =
used copper gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one =
above the leak spot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and =
replacing weird one went well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. =
One upper bolt would not tighten and now it won't untighten either. =
Wanky one was a bottom bolt. Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and =
clean up the threads ? Shit I'd just like to drive the bugger.=20
Mr. Ira Erbs
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Yes, the interesting article said it all and more. =
=E2=80=9CVice=E2=80=9D grips. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael =
Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October =
26, 2015 14:03<br><b>To:</b> Simon Lachlan<br><b>Cc:</b> Michael; =
Oudesluys; Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Stripped =
bolt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I never heard the term =
"Mole Wrench" and was wondering what the Brits have against =
the little critters that they would invent still another device to =
extirpate them. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Turns out the name =
"Mole Wrench" derives from a different =
source....see:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><a =
href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Coughtrie";>https://en.wikipe=
dia.org/wiki/Thomas_Coughtrie</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, =
Oct 26, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Simon Lachlan <<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; =
target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Sounds typically well thought and workable.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>But, and isn=E2=80=99t there always a =E2=80=9Cbut=E2=80=9D.....once =
you=E2=80=99ve drilled the head off the bolt and removed the bracket, =
you=E2=80=99ll have enough bolt sticking out to deal =
with.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Maybe grab it with a mole wrench and, whilst pulling outwards, screw =
it out.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Then back to Michael=E2=80=99s scheme....</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Only a thought...probably the only one today.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 26, 2015 12:48<br><b>To:</b> =
Oudesluys; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Stripped =
bolt<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi =
Ira,<br>From your description it would appear that you have used a =
"soft" bolt upon which the threads have stripped.<br>My bet is =
that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that has =
penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the block =
albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.<br>There is a =
chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a good =
chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced into =
the threads in the block casting those threads, in the block, will be =
severely damaged. <br>If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job =
ahead of you.<br>My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind =
holes is about 5% </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS =
Mincho"'>=E2=98=B9</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <br>This =
may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle the =
problem.<br>First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing =
the bracket.<br>Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and =
drill through it with progressively larger bits until the head falls =
off.<br>Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt =
protruding.<br>After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then =
cut the bolt off flush with the face of the block using a vibrating =
Multitool.<br>You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt =
through into the tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.<br>Now run a =
tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after cleaning =
everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....<br>Good =
luck.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 =
#174</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; =
target=3D"_blank">Oudesluys</a></span><br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>=E2=80=8E26=
/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.</span><br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a></span><br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Re: =
[Healeys] Stripped bolt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Try getting =
an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage, then turn the =
head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a moderate force on =
the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt started.<br>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I =
Erbs:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just spins. =
Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not sound =
good<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ira =
Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br> _______ =
=
_______<br> (______ \____1959 =
BN4____/ _______)<br> =
(_________________________)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Oct =
25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>WRT, the bolt not =
'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or does it turn =
but not back out?<br><br>Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread =
chaser doesn't fix the problem I'm afraid you'll probably need to =
install a helicoil (or similar) when you do get the bad one =
out.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On =
10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p>Generator plate leaked =
after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, used copper gasket =
sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one above the leak spot =
was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing weird one went =
well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper bolt would not =
tighten and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was a bottom bolt. =
Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the threads ? Shit =
I'd just like to drive the bugger. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Mr. Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p><=
/p></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
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