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Fairly brutal thing in a confined space. Wouldn=E2=80=99t want to slip =
off the bolt head and scar some other priceless piece of aged British =
Midlands technology? And plenty of sparks...
Simon
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim =
Davis BN7
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 14:14
To: Michael
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
=20
If you have working room to drill through the bolt head until if falls =
off wouldn't a 4" angle grinder be faster at removing it?
=20
Just a thought
=20
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From: "Michael" <michael.salter@gmail.com>
To: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>, healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 7:48:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
=20
Hi Ira,
>From your description it would appear that you have used a "soft" bolt =
upon which the threads have stripped.
My bet is that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that =
has penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the =
block albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.
There is a chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also =
a good chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are =
forced into the threads in the block casting those threads, in the =
block, will be severely damaged.=20
If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job ahead of you.
My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind holes is about 5% =
=E2=98=B9=20
This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would tackle =
the problem.
First remove the generator and all the other bolts securing the bracket.
Then center punch the head of the offending bolt and drill through it =
with progressively larger bits until the head falls off.
Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub of the bolt protruding.
After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I would then cut the bolt off =
flush with the face of the block using a vibrating Multitool.
You should then be able to tap the rest of the bolt through into the =
tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.
Now run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after =
cleaning everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....
Good luck.
Michael S
BN1 #174
_____ =20
Sent: =E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt
=20
Try getting an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage, =
then turn the head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a =
moderate force on the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt =
started.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I Erbs:
Just spins. Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does =
not sound good
=20
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
_______ _______
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
(_________________________)
=20
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> =
wrote:
WRT, the bolt not 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or =
does it turn but not back out?
Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread chaser doesn't fix the =
problem I'm afraid you'll probably need to install a helicoil (or =
similar) when you do get the bad one out.
Bob
On 10/25/2015 9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:
Generator plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, =
used copper gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one =
above the leak spot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and =
replacing weird one went well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. =
One upper bolt would not tighten and now it won't untighten either. =
Wanky one was a bottom bolt. Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and =
clean up the threads ? Shit I'd just like to drive the bugger.
Mr. Ira Erbs
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Fairly brutal thing in a confined space. Wouldn=E2=80=99t want to =
slip off the bolt head and scar some other priceless piece of aged =
British Midlands technology? And plenty of =
sparks...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Davis =
BN7<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 26, 2015 14:14<br><b>To:</b> =
Michael<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Stripped bolt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>If you have working room =
to drill through the bolt head until if falls off wouldn't a 4" =
angle grinder be faster at removing =
it?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Just a =
thought<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter =
id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Michael&=
quot; <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com</a>>=
<br><b>To: </b>"Oudesluys" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";>coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>>, <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ent: </b>Monday, October 26, 2015 7:48:19 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: =
[Healeys] Stripped bolt<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Hi Ira,<br>From your description it would appear that you have used a =
"soft" bolt upon which the threads have stripped.<br>My bet is =
that there are still good threads on the part of the bolt that has =
penetrated through into the tappet cavity and good threads in the block =
albeit filled with the stripped threads from the bolt.<br>There is a =
chance that Kees recommendation would work BUT there is also a good =
chance that as the remaining damaged threads of the bolt are forced into =
the threads in the block casting those threads, in the block, will be =
severely damaged. <br>If that happens you then have a nasty Helicoil job =
ahead of you.<br>My success rate with Helicoils in other than blind =
holes is about 5% </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS =
Mincho";color:black'>=E2=98=B9</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
> <br>This may sound somewhat labor intensive but here is how I would =
tackle the problem.<br>First remove the generator and all the other =
bolts securing the bracket.<br>Then center punch the head of the =
offending bolt and drill through it with progressively larger bits until =
the head falls off.<br>Now the bracket can be removed leaving the stub =
of the bolt protruding.<br>After stuffing the tappet cavity with rags I =
would then cut the bolt off flush with the face of the block using a =
vibrating Multitool.<br>You should then be able to tap the rest of the =
bolt through into the tappet cavity to get caught in the rags.<br>Now =
run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads and, after cleaning =
everything thoroughly, you should be good to go....<br>Good =
luck.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>From: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; =
target=3D"_blank">Oudesluys</a></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><b>=
<span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Sent: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>=E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2015 4:41 a.m.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><b>=
<span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>To: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><b>=
<span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Subject: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Re: [Healeys] Stripped bolt</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Try getting =
an old knife blade under the head to create some leverage, then turn the =
head anti-clockwise with the spanner while keeping a moderate force on =
the knife blade. This usually suffices to get the bolt started.<br>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 26-10-2015 om 6:07 schreef I =
Erbs:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Just spins. =
Never got tight, just a bit snug then it spins. Yup, does not sound =
good<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Ira =
Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br> _______ =
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BN4____/ _______)<br> =
(_________________________)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div>=
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Sun, Oct =
25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>WRT, the bolt =
not 'untightening;' are you unable to turn the bolt? Or does it =
turn but not back out?<br><br>Doesn't sound good either way; if a thread =
chaser doesn't fix the problem I'm afraid you'll probably need to =
install a helicoil (or similar) when you do get the bad one =
out.<br><br><span class=3Dhoenzb>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On 10/25/2015 =
9:18 PM, I Erbs wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Generator =
plate leaked after I last removed it. Cleaned Right Stuff off, used =
copper gasket sealer. When removing old bolts i realized the one above =
the leak spot was not fitting right. retightening bolts and replacing =
weird one went well. I hand tightened all bolts until firm. One upper =
bolt would not tighten and now it won't untighten either. Wanky one was =
a bottom bolt. Any suggestions for removing bad bolt? and clean up the =
threads ? Shit I'd just like to drive the =
bugger.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mr. Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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/o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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