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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 18:24:16 +1000
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Hello

 

How much is a US quart?

 

Is it a quarter of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an imperial gallon which =
is equal to 4.54609 litres?

 

Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US did=
n=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measures.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for Sydney

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthods=
on--- via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 PM
To: bspidell@comcast.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.

 

The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was=
 $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best=
 price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway. 

Gary Hodson



-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.

Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; sti=
ll don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before refu=
sed to ship to me.  The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years=
 ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got =
an explanation there, either.  I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves=
 since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll =
be happy.

Bob



On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:

Hi, 

Thanks all.  As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience sh=
ared by the list.  What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was =
the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display th=
e usual statement that it contains ZDDP.  For decades I have used that oil =
as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc.  However, if Re=
d Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.  I also recalled t=
hat some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 2=
0W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some California rule changes.  =
I wondered it this happened to Red Line.

 

So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response sent=
 one to our Healey group.  The Healey group was much faster to respond.  Wh=
ile most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did come=
=2E  The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) contains go=
od ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; =
1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.

As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle =
is enough to add to a conventional oil.  It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 gr=
ams.  I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too much=
=2E  I am just not inclined to experiment.

 

The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even=
 for tropical heat.  However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the G=
reen Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights d=
epending on the manufacturer.  The aspect that modern oils are a bit differ=
ent than those available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty=
=2E  

 

I am confident using the 10W40.  I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an =
air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather.  There we=
re also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99=
s 10W40.  The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for =
me to use a heavier oil.

 

Many thanks to the folks who responded.  

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt'>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>How much is a US quart?<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Is it a quarte=
r of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an imperial gallon which is equal to 4.=
54609 litres?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the sa=
me and that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measures.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'=
>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt'>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>74.8 kilometres or =
46 =C2=BD miles for Sydney<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans=
-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et] <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday,=
 2 May 2020 11:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> bspidell@comcast.net; healeys@autox.team=
=2Enet<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. =
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div=
><div><div id=3Dyiv0208102013><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The best pr=
ice I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quar=
t &amp; it was shipping from &quot;Zoro&quot;, who ever that is. The next b=
est price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Gary Ho=
dson<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-s=
erif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Bob Spidell &lt;bspi=
dell@comcast.net&gt;<br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Fri, May 1, 202=
0 11:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Tha=
nks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv0208102013yqt13193><div id=3Dyiv0208=
102013><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Walmart =
had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; still don't=
 understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before refused to s=
hip to me.&nbsp; The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years ag=
o my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got an =
explanation there, either.&nbsp; I haven't seen it on any parts house shelv=
es since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'l=
l be happy.<br><br>Bob<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv0208102013=
yqt73128><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- v=
ia Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=3Dyiv02081=
02013yqt06343><div><div><div id=3Dyiv0208102013><div><div><div style=3D'mar=
gin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;col=
or:black'>Hi,&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Aria=
l","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Thanks all.&nbsp; As i=
s usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience shared by the list.=
 &nbsp;What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the observat=
ion of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the usual stat=
ement that it contains ZDDP. &nbsp;For decades I have used that oil as it c=
arries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc. &nbsp;However, if Red =
Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. &nbsp;I also recalle=
d that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvolin=
e 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some California rule changes=
=2E &nbsp;I wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;colo=
r:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:bl=
ack'>So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response=
 sent one to our Healey group. &nbsp;The Healey group was much faster to re=
spond. &nbsp;While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line re=
sponse did come. &nbsp;The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU =
11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet=
 cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.</sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:b=
lack'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>As to their break in additive, their Web site=
 indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a conventional oil.&nbsp;=
 It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.&nbsp; I have to wonder if adding it=
 to their 10W40 could result in too much.&nbsp; I am just not inclined to e=
xperiment.</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-=
serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;colo=
r:black'>The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight =
oil, even for tropical heat.&nbsp; However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=
=E2=80=9D (the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a =
lot of weights depending on the manufacturer.&nbsp; The aspect that modern =
oils are a bit different than those available when the book came out adds a=
 bit more uncertainty.&nbsp; </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:bla=
ck'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I am confident using the 10W40.&nbsp; I used 10=
W50 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to sta=
rt in freezing weather.&nbsp; There were also a lot of reputable recommenda=
tions that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.&nbsp; The oil pressure is pr=
oper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:14.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Many than=
ks to the folks who responded.&nbsp; </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>&nbs=
p;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";c=
olor:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Bill</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
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