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We are still part of the British Commonwealth, but adopted the metric syste=
m in the 1960s.
We also was the first country to have universal suffrage.
We also have compulsory voting!!!!
Wouldn=E2=80=99t that be an eye opener.
Hoo Roo
Patrick
From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2020 9:18 PM
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn
Cc: warthodson@aol.com; Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
"Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US di=
dn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measures."
=2E...said by a citizen of a country formerly in the British Empire, some o=
f whose standards of weights and measurements depended upon the size of its=
then-ruler's body parts!
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.a=
u> wrote:
Hello
How much is a US quart?
Is it a quarter of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an imperial gallon which =
is equal to 4.54609 litres?
Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US did=
n=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measures.
Hoo Roo
Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for Sydney
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of warthods=
on--- via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 PM
To: bspidell@comcast.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was=
$7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best=
price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.
Gary Hodson
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; sti=
ll don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before refu=
sed to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years=
ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got =
an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves=
since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll =
be happy.
Bob
On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
Hi,
Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience sh=
ared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was =
the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display th=
e usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have used that oil =
as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc. However, if Re=
d Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. I also recalled t=
hat some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 2=
0W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some California rule changes. =
I wondered it this happened to Red Line.
So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response sent=
one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to respond. Wh=
ile most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did come=
=2E The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) contains go=
od ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; =
1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.
As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle =
is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 gr=
ams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too much=
=2E I am just not inclined to experiment.
The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even=
for tropical heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the G=
reen Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights d=
epending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a bit differ=
ent than those available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty=
=2E
I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an =
air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. There we=
re also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99=
s 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for =
me to use a heavier oil.
Many thanks to the folks who responded.
Bill
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We are still part of the British =
Commonwealth, but adopted the metric system in the =
1960s.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We also was the first =
country to have universal suffrage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We also have =
compulsory voting!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Wouldn=E2=80=99t that =
be an eye opener.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael =
Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 3 May =
2020 9:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Patrick & Caroline Quinn<br><b>Cc:</b> =
warthodson@aol.com; Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil =
additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>"</span><span =
style=3D'color:#222222'>Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was =
the same and that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and =
measures."</span></i><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#222222'>....said by a citizen of =
a country formerly in the British Empire, some of whose standards of =
weights and measurements depended upon the size of its then-ruler's body =
parts!</span><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";>p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hello</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>How much is a US =
quart?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Is it a quarter of a US gallon which is =
7/8ths of an imperial gallon which is equal to 4.54609 =
litres?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone =
was the same and that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and =
measures.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hoo Roo</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick Quinn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Blue Mountains, =
Australia</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for =
Sydney</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. =
Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site =
was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever =
that is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from =
Speedway. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>G=
ary Hodson</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
----Original Message-----<br>From: Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 =
11:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. =
Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt13193"><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>W=
almart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; =
still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from =
before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange =
twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the =
shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen =
it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship =
for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be =
happy.<br><br>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt73128"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt06343"><div><div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Hi, </span><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Thanks all. As is usual =
there is a lot of good discourse and experience shared by the =
list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the =
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the =
usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have used =
that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, =
etc. However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find =
another oil. I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell =
having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no =
longer cleared some California rule changes. I wondered it this =
happened to Red Line.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>So, I sent off an inquiry to Red =
Line and not getting a rapid response sent one to our Healey =
group. The Healey group was much faster to respond. While =
most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did =
come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) =
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam =
and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm =
phosphorus.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>As to their break in additive, =
their Web site indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a =
conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams. I =
have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too =
much. I am just not inclined to =
experiment.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>The 3000=E2=80=99s =
owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for tropical =
heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Green =
Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights =
depending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a =
bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit =
more uncertainty. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I am confident using the =
10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine =
and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. There were also a =
lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99s =
10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an =
upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Many thanks to the folks who =
responded. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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