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*"Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US d=
idn=E2=80=99t
have its own weights and measures."*
....said by a citizen of a country formerly in the British Empire, some of
whose standards of weights and measurements depended upon the size of its
then-ruler's body parts!
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.a=
u>
wrote:
> Hello
>
>
>
> How much is a US quart?
>
>
>
> Is it a quarter of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an imperial gallon whic=
h
> is equal to 4.54609 litres?
>
>
>
> Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US d=
idn=E2=80=99t
> have its own weights and measures.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
> 74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for Sydney
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *wa=
rthodson---
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 PM
> *To:* bspidell@comcast.net; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
>
>
>
> The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site
> was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next
> best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.
>
> Gary Hodson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
>
> Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50;
> still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before
> refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few
> years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I nev=
er
> got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it on any parts house
> shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than
> $4/qt I'll be happy.
>
> Bob
>
> On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
> shared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives
> was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not
> display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have us=
ed
> that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc.
> However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. I
> also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outle=
t
> for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some Californi=
a
> rule changes. I wondered it this happened to Red Line.
>
>
>
> So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response
> sent one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to
> respond. While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
> response did come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU
> 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tapp=
et
> cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.
>
> As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottl=
e
> is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6
> grams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
> much. I am just not inclined to experiment.
>
>
>
> The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, ev=
en for tropical
> heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Green Book) h=
as a much more
> expansive table that promotes a lot of weights depending on the
> manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
> available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty.
>
>
>
> I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was a=
n
> air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. There
> were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=
=80=99s
> 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for =
me to use
> a heavier oil.
>
>
>
> Many thanks to the folks who responded.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><i>&q=
uot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if e=
veryone was the same and that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights an=
d measures."</span></i></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"col=
or:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,3=
4)">....said by a citizen of a country formerly in the British Empire, some=
of whose standards of weights and measurements depended upon the size of i=
ts then-ruler's body parts!</span><br></div><br>=C2=A0</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 3, 20=
20 at 4:24 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@t=
pg.com.au">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-AU"><div class=3D"gmail-m_858=
0753241976023623WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt">Hello<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11pt">How much is a US quart?<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Is it a =
quarter of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an imperial gallon which is equal=
to 4.54609 litres?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone=
was the same and that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measu=
res.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Blue Mountains, A=
ustralia<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11pt">74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for Sydney<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Healeys [mail=
to:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heal=
eys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Heale=
ys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"m=
ailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team=
.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton=
. Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
sans-serif;color:black">The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w5=
0 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Z=
oro", who ever that is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping f=
rom Speedway.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black">Gary Hodson<br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message--=
---<br>From: Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, M=
ay 1, 2020 11:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great inform=
aton. Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_858075324197602362=
3yiv0208102013yqt13193"><div id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013=
"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Walmart had no prob=
lem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; still don't unders=
tand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before refused to ship to =
me.=C2=A0 The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years ago my fa=
vorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got an=
explanation there, either.=C2=A0 I haven't seen it on any parts house =
shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/q=
t I'll be happy.<br><br>Bob<br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"=
gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt73128"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=
On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yq=
t06343"><div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div=
><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">Hi,=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">Tha=
nks all.=C2=A0 As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience =
shared by the list.=C2=A0 What triggered my question on oil and oil additiv=
es was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not dis=
play the usual statement that it contains ZDDP.=C2=A0 For decades I have us=
ed that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc.=C2=
=A0 However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.=
=C2=A0 I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a ne=
w outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some Ca=
lifornia rule changes.=C2=A0 I wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14pt;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:14=
pt;color:black">So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rap=
id response sent one to our Healey group.=C2=A0 The Healey group was much f=
aster to respond.=C2=A0 While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a =
Red Line response did come.=C2=A0 The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil =
10W40 (SKU 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey=
9;s flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm =
phosphorus.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">As to their break in additive, th=
eir Web site indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a conventiona=
l oil.=C2=A0 It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.=C2=A0 I have to wonder =
if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too much.=C2=A0 I am just not i=
nclined to experiment.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14p=
t;color:black">The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 w=
eight oil, even for tropical heat.=C2=A0 However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Ma=
nual=E2=80=9D (the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promote=
s a lot of weights depending on the manufacturer.=C2=A0 The aspect that mod=
ern oils are a bit different than those available when the book came out ad=
ds a bit more uncertainty.=C2=A0 </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">=C2=A0</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:14pt;color:black">I am confident using the 10W40.=C2=A0 I used 10W5=
0 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start=
in freezing weather.=C2=A0 There were also a lot of reputable recommendati=
ons that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.=C2=A0 The oil pressure is prop=
er, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:14pt;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">Many thanks to th=
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