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1. [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:46:21 -0600; Speaking of warming... (kidding) I recall hoopla over bellows type stats being needed for the earlier TRs. CAn someone explain why? Also, what is/are the features that are significant. Thanks in adva; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00289.html (7,224 bytes)
2. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@razzolink.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:06:38 -0800; www.tjwakeman.net/TR/thermostat.htm I collected a small personal stash of them for my TR3 when I learned they were being discontinued. I think I'm currently down to 4 NOS spare Smiths sleeved thermos; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00292.html (7,530 bytes)
3. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:25:15 -0600; Thanks. I have a supply of NOS bellows thermostats as well. Regrettably they don't have any skirts or sleeves, which is what is needed by your analysis. I get it. Thanx. == This list supported in par; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00295.html (7,868 bytes)
4. RE: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:18:07 -0800; In addition to TeriAnn's site, it's perhaps worth noting that Triumph deleted the thermostat skirt on later TRs, and listed the non-skirted thermostat as a supercession for the earlier skirted varie; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00303.html (8,960 bytes)
5. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@razzolink.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:30:40 -0800; of course the primary reason for having the radiator bypass in the first place was to minimize head cracking due to thermal differentials and rapid thermal changes. A common fix on TR3s is to put a p; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00304.html (7,794 bytes)
6. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@adelphia.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:59:18 -0500; Is this opinion or fact? If factual where does one find that reference? I'd like to know the origin of this statement. I'm curious about this. JVV == This list supported in part by The Vintage Triump; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00305.html (7,417 bytes)
7. RE: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:12:19 -0800; Seems self-evident to me. Without the bypass, the water doesn't circulate at all when the thermostat is fully closed. With no circulation, you're going to get hot spots. The hottest spots will be in; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00309.html (8,916 bytes)
8. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@adelphia.net>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:19:46 -0500; Randall, The statement was made as if it was factual as it relates to the TRactor engines and I wanted to know the origin of the facts. While it may be self evident and the argument that it is appear; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00323.html (10,126 bytes)
9. RE: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:02:54 -0800; Jerry, I guess I don't understand your point. The TRactor motor very likely had a thermostat bypass because _all_ water-cooled engines with water thermostats have thermostat bypasses (both before an; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00326.html (9,949 bytes)
10. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@adelphia.net>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:09:41 -0500; My point is the same as you have made to me and many others on numerous occasions, don't state facts that are opinions. That's the point. JVV -- Original Message -- From: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.c; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00327.html (10,734 bytes)
11. RE: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:13:43 -0800; It's a fact that thermal stress can cause cast iron to crack. It's a fact that lack of coolant circulation leads to excessive thermal stress (aka hot spots). It's a fact that the bypass allows coola; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00329.html (8,938 bytes)
12. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: MMoore8425@aol.com; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:35:19 EST; It's a fact that thermal stress can cause cast iron to crack. It's a fact that lack of coolant circulation leads to excessive thermal stress (aka hot spot s). It's a fact that the bypass allows coola; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00330.html (9,281 bytes)
13. [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Arakelian, Peter" <arakelianp@mossmotors.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:25:59 -0800; One thing to keep in mind with a bellows thermostat is that they were designed for the low pressure caps, 7 lbs I believe. If you decide to change to the higher pressure cap, the bellows will collaps; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00331.html (8,820 bytes)
14. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: BearTranserv@aol.com; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:03:23 EST; My point is the same as you have made to me and many others on numerous occasions, don't state facts that are opinions. That's the point. Randall said it, I believe it, nothing else matters... Robert; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00332.html (9,137 bytes)
15. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: kinderlehrer@comcast.net; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:10:10 +0000; Ok already. So in Randall's opinon they are facts, and the fact is that's not your opinion. If everyone that posted to this list had to back up their statements with chapter and verse of references a; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00333.html (9,407 bytes)
16. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: TR250Driver@aol.com; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:34:30 EST; One thing to keep in mind with a bellows thermostat is that they were designed for the low pressure caps, 7 lbs I believe. If you decide to change to the higher pressure cap, the bellows will collaps; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00336.html (9,119 bytes)
17. RE: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:01:58 -0800; NO. Blocking the bypass is a Bad Thing, as we've discussed. Using a sleeved thermostat is optional, IMO, I ran one just long enough to find out that it made no detectable difference on my car. The f; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00337.html (9,915 bytes)
18. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: jar@aldermanroad.net; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:19:01 -0500; An excellent point that many miss. Basic physics... == This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register == http://www.vtr.org; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00340.html (9,177 bytes)
19. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: TR250Driver@aol.com; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:21:07 EST; NO. Blocking the bypass is a Bad Thing, as we've discussed. Using a sleeved thermostat is optional, IMO, I ran one just long enough to find out that it made no detectable difference on my car. The fa; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00341.html (8,659 bytes)
20. Re: [TR] TR2,3,4 thermostats (score: 1): Author: MMoore8425@aol.com; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:35:52 EST; Using a sleeved thermostat is optional, IMO, I ran one just long enough to find out that it made no detectable difference on my car. Randal, my TR3, owned since 64, with ca 300,000 miles on it , will; /html/triumphs/2007-01/msg00345.html (8,268 bytes)

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