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Re: Locking Brakes

To: tr6taylor@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Locking Brakes
From: TRDOCTOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:32:16 EDT
In a message dated 6/27/00 1:21:54 AM Central Daylight Time, 
tr6taylor@webtv.net writes:

<< Samuel---Parts of your inquiry, like a sudden drop in brake pedal, sound
 familiar.  Also the seizing of the front brakes after new master
 cylinders and/or changing over to the silicon brake fluid. Never
 experiencing the seizing phenomenon in any of my cars, I can't give my
 own example of a fix. But I can tell about my having the same "tipping
 valve" in the original master cylinder for 27 years. It obviously has
 not caused a problem, or it would've been out of there.  These tippers
 still come with brake MC rebuild kits from TRF. I don't think Moss
 includes them in their base kit anymore, and their price reflects this.
 I can't see what would ever wear out here, still it's been written that
 a faulty one won't allow the brake fluid to return to the MC after
 applying the brakes. Tim H. is a believer in this, and I have no reason
 to doubt him. 
 The silicon fluid, or the method of changing over to it, continues to
 cause concern to many. It's written that system cleaners such as mineral
 spirits and alcohol shouldn't be used, as it can "cause problems."  Well
 if you can't use these, and glycol and silicon won't mix, what's an
 enthusiast to do??  Use air pressure to force out the old fluid?
 Completely disassemble the system and clean with what,... water? Then
 blow dry?
 
 It kind of figures that the brakes would release after being allowed to
 cool off. Especially if the heated fluid in the line expanded thru
 trapped air bubbles, and couldn't return to the MC for any reason.
 
 Finally, since it's noticed that brake pedals "fall" after turning sharp
 corners, going forward OR backwards, maybe this action can push the
 pistons back into the calipers, thus releasing the hold the pads have on
 the discs. I wouldn't want to rely on this method for long, but perhaps
 it would get a guy or gal home.
 
 Dick T.
 '73
  >>
Dick;
The wierd thing here is that this system has been in flawless operation for 
>3 years.  I'm going to go out this evening and re-adjust the rear brakes 
back up and take it for a drive in the immediate area and see what happens.  
I will have along some tools for diagnostic purpose if it acts up.  As has 
been suggested, I will see if loosening the master cylinder a little from the 
booster has any effect.
I am in total agreement with you on the conversion to silicone.  It is very 
confusing.  The way I went about it was to use a make-shift pressure bleeder 
and force all of the old fluid out with air.  Then I flushed it out with 
alcohol, and then blew it out with air and let the system sit open for a 
couple of days to dry out.  Then I replaced the hoses master cylinder and 
rear wheel cylinders with new and then went back with the silicone.
Thanks for the help.  I will keep the list posted of my progress.

Samuel R. Clark 
Green Country Triumphs/Jaguar Enthusiast's Club of Oklahoma
VTR South Central Regional Coordinator
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