T10 is not only on-camber, but the car gets heavy on the transition from
downhill to flat. similar to carousel at sears, infinite traction at bottom
(but be careful at top ).
my problem has always been boiling the fluid, never the pads. only my rx7
had indestructable brakes.
-james
-----Original Message-----
From: Navid Kahangi <nkahangi@interwoven.com>
>I have never had problems with brakes at Laguna. I don't know exactly why,
>but I'm easy on brakes in general. Here are a few things that are probably
>obvious to you, but worth mentioning:
>
>1) I use Performance Friction pads. They don't have clamps, so they don't
>cling on to the pistons and boil the fluid. They rattle like hell, but
>that's the price you pay.
>
>2) Start your braking sooner and stay on it longer instead of jumping on
the
>breaks at the last moment.
>
>3) Spend 25% of your braking time getting on, 25% getting off and 50% at
the
>threshold. That makes for very smooth braking. You use carry some of your
>last 25% into turn 2.
>
>4) Get on the brakes right before the crest of the hill before the
>corkscrew, lift at the crest and back on the brakes before the turn. This
>keeps the ABS from kicking in.
>
>5) Don't brake too much in 10. It's not as bad as you think. It's an
>optical illusion. :) It's an on-camber turn. The tendency is to break too
>much, then compensate by jumping on the gas. Easy on the brakes, then
>steady increase of throttle through the turn (this is a gem I picked up
from
>Steve Dinan and it's yours for free).
>
>You asked....
>
>--Navid
>Mandatory AutoX content: AutoX skills will save your life on track one day.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Derek Butts
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 11:15 AM
>> To: navidk@home.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: c2 automotive
>>
>>
>> Navid,
>>
>> Please explain to me how to drive Laguna without being hard on
>> the brakes. I
>> ran on Friday in the 1:55 to 1:57 range with crappy tires, half boost and
>> boiling brake fluid. I used engine braking as much as I could
>> but still cooked
>> the fluid. A 1:46 is insanely quick... Now you make me want to
>> modify my stock
>> car!!!
>>
>> Derek
>>
>> Navid Kahangi wrote:
>>
>> > 1:46 at Laguna buddy, that's with bad camber plates. And you
>> don't know how
>> > to drive at Laguna if you are toasting your brake pads! :)
>> >
>> > As far as car prep goes, with your 10 more horses and
>> coilovers, I think the
>> > opposite. I'll be there this weekend, overheating or not! :)
>> >
>> > --Navid
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
>> > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kit Wetzler
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 11:40 AM
>> > To: Steven J. Sherwood
>> > Cc: navid@interwoven.com; Jim Ochi; ba-autox@autox. team. net
>> > Subject: RE: c2 automotive
>> >
>> > > Sorry Kit...Navid will eat you alive. If you wanna tangle with
>> > > us slow Audi sedans...we will be at Thunderhill on 12/3....again
>> > > on 1/13-14....then at Laguna mid-month with TracQuest...and
>> > > with the Quattro club on March 1-2.
>> >
>> > I wasn't joking when I suggested you guys come out and race
>> with Touring Car
>> > club... :)
>> >
>> > > at Sears...but I think it was about 2:07 or so. Best time
>> > > at Thunderhill is a 2:16 (I think...with turn #5)....best at
>> > > Laguna was a 2:04 in a slow 172bhp Audi A4. I will definitely
>> > > improve this time in my coilovered and r compounded S4.
>> >
>> > Hm. I did a 1:55 in my S2000 at Laguna Seca on street tires and
toasted
>> > brake pads... 2:15 on street tires at Butonwillow in the
>> bimmer, with the
>> > old suspension, running counterclockwise.
>> >
>> > We'll see. Navid may have more car prep, but I have Pure
>> Driving Spirit!
>> > ;)
>> >
>> > -kit
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