Looks like the SEB should be worrying about BP rather than AP!
--Pat K
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>From: David Borden <david.j.borden@direcway.com>
>To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
>Subject: FW: FFR in AP
>Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2003, 8:23 PM
>
>>If that's what can be done with an FFR, I guess I'm not going anywhere
> near
>>AP. Unless, of course I get one myself. And figure out how to make
> the
>>suspension work properly (as opposed to working like a Fox-body
> Mustang). >:)
>
>>Scot (I onlyWISH my car's power/weight ratio was 3lb/hp)
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>
> Our power to weight ratio is about 6.2:1 with driver. The car weighs
> 2175 wet with no ballast.
>
> To keep things in perspective, we have been developing these cars
> seriously for about 5 years. Some of you may remember Mary and I
> running our white car(now blue and white) in San Fran region back in
> 96-97 :) Long before a cobra was a twinkle in James eyes hee hee hee
>
> Getting a FFR to this level is somewhat copy and paste now... but that
> was after many many years of development. It included a totally new
> rear suspension (IRS) and a total redesign of the front suspensions
> ackerman, roll center and SAI.
>
> The original is listed in BP and FFR falls into this class under section
> 15.11 a
> "Due to the extent of modifications permitted in GT- derived
> cars classed within the prepared category, it is possible for a replica
> to meet the legality requirements for the corresponding original model
> provided the engine, track, and wheelbase remain within allowed specs...
> The 10% increase in mim weight does apply to such cars." (somewhat
> paraphrased)
>
> In BP, the weight is very high for this car considering its wheelbase...
> something like 2750lbs.
>
> We do not fall under NOC "not otherwise classified" We transfer to AP
> based on weight and motor size following BP specs for the original cobra
> as stated in Apendix A for AP. With the minimum weight + 10% I think
> 2255 or 2250 depending on if you add the 12 inch wheel penalty before or
> after the 10% replica penalty. Motors over 5.1 add another 200lbs.
>
> This has been confirmed with both Howard Duncan and Doug Gill of SCCA.
>
> Our hope it to gather peoples interest in running FFR's as prepared
> cars. They are just a blast to drive when prepared correctly and as
> Chris said not to expensive. If someone was really creative, I think
> one could be done for well below $20K. I've even mentioned the
> possibility to FFR about developing a stripped bare bones car just for
> this purpose. Chris and others have also mentioned this. We have about
> 3500 of these things cruising on the streets of the US. This year we
> will have over 5 drivers running AP in FFR's at the nationals. Next
> year I think we could get 10+ drivers running in AP. I just hope the
> SEB doesn't do anything to kill the apparent momentum we are gaining.
>
> David
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