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Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams

To: Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@verizon.net>, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
From: Brian Schirano <bschirano@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:14:16 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
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Scott's advice is probably the best you have received! And Bill's estimate =
is accurate from my experience! Might be less if you don't blow it up right=
 away!=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
BSchirano@yahoo.com
      From: Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@verizon.net>
 To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>; McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>=20
Cc: FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
  =20
Race ready, yeah, heard that one before!If you buy a used race car, take th=
e purchase price and add that much more to it and you may be ready for the =
track!The good news is that it will be set up to your liking. And your spec=
s.No regrets on my part; the Redhead is still fun to drive and I'm having a=
 blast. May not be first but it was built to last.Cheers, Bill
=20

----- Original Message -----  From: Scott Janzen  To: McKearn McKearn  Cc: =
FOT list  Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cyl=
inder cams=20
   Race cars, especially GT6s, aren't built /set up to be competitive in on=
e shot, unless you are Chuck Gee. =C2=A0No rush. That said, as much fun as =
it may be to build one, spending a little more up front to buy one that has=
 been raced will probably save money in the long run. =C2=A0All that hardwa=
re - dual braking system, competition shocks, fire system, roll cage, braid=
ed lines, heavy duty stub axles, spare wheels, fuel cell, etc, etc, etc is =
often heavily discounted in the price of a used race car. =C2=A0 You'll sti=
ll need to build a good engine and do countless other things (race ready, h=
a!) but you can probably save money over the long haul.=C2=A0 Who out there=
 has a car for P.J.?

Sent from my mobile device=C2=A0=20
On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:44 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> wrote:

   O.K. I get it.=C2=A0 Race car or street car. One=C2=A0or=C2=A0 the other=
.=C2=A0 I guess I'll=C2=A0 have to build a race car and use it for track da=
ys.=C2=A0 I just can't make the commitment to the time and money =C2=A0requ=
ired for racing at this time.  =C2=A0 With that in mind, I would appreciate=
 some help.=C2=A0 Could I get a really low interest 30 year loan for about =
50 Gs or so?=C2=A0 Or just some honest opinions from time to time is good t=
oo. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 P.J.=20
 On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com> =
wrote:
=20
  Better yet, take it the full=C2=A0step beyond... and forget about track d=
ays and street GT6's all together. It's way more useful as a racer. The rea=
l thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars. All that Track day talk is buil=
ding a car for 1/2=C2=A0its duty both ways. Spend all that time and money, =
drive on the street and have some big SUV destroy it at a stop light. When =
it come to GT6's, there are race cars and there are street cars and never t=
he two should be the same. Race. Full on Race. It will be the best and wors=
t decision you will ever make all at the same time. The fun and friendship =
that you get from racing the car will outweigh any argument for the "track =
day concept". If you do either "properly" you will likely spend the same am=
ount of money. But you will have way more fun racing. And you will be actua=
lly racing the thing. there is nothing better. We will give you all the hel=
p you need.=20
 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars=20
 On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:05 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> wro=
te:
=20
  Hi All. =C2=A0 I'm starting on a new GT6 Motor and I have some questions.=
=C2=A0 First are GT6 and TR6 cams really interchangeable?=C2=A0 Also what c=
ompression ratio do you all feel is reasonable.=C2=A0 This car will seldom =
if ever see the street but will mostly be for track days?=C2=A0 Thanks.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 P.J.
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67971"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144618858158=
0_68113">Scott's advice is probably the best you have received! And Bill's =
estimate is accurate from my experience! Might be less if you don't blow it=
 up right away!</span></div><div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144618858158=
0_67972">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"signature" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581=
580_67974"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67973">26A GT6+, 28 TR6</d=
iv>Brian Schirano<br>585-305-0349 Cell&nbsp;<br>BSchirano@yahoo.com</div><b=
r>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; fon=
t-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67978"> <div style=3D"font-=
family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, san=
s-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67977"> <div di=
r=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67976"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68112">  <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67975"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</=
span></b> Bill Tobin &lt;william.tobin31@verizon.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Scott Janzen &lt;sjanzen@me.com&gt;;=
 McKearn McKearn &lt;mckearn2@gmail.com&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">Cc:</span></b> FOT list &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68194"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68193">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 30, 201=
5 9:04 AM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68196"><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68195">Subject:</span></b=
> Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_contai=
ner" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67983"><br><div id=3D"yiv1699833845">=
<style></style><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67982">
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68117"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_68118">Race ready, yeah, heard that one=
=20
before!</font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67987"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67986">If you buy a used race car, take =
the purchase price=20
and add that much more to it and you may be ready for the track!</font></di=
v>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67985"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67984">The good news is that it will be =
set up to your=20
liking. And your specs.</font></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446188581580_67981"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial=
">No regrets on my part; the Redhead is still fun to=20
drive and I'm having a blast. May not be first but it was built to=20
last.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Cheers, Bill</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING=
-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
  <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1699833845yqt=
6607139784" id=3D"yiv1699833845yqt36677"><div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;">--=
--- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"sjanzen@me.com" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:sjanzen@me.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com"; title=
-off=3D"">Scott Janzen</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" title=3D"mckearn2@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; title-off=3D"">McKearn Mc=
Kearn</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" title=3D"fot@autox.team.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; title-off=3D"">FOT list</=
a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 30, 2015 8:3=
2=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Six cylinder=20
cams</div>
  <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div><span></span></div>
  <div>
  <div>Race cars, especially GT6s, aren't built /set up to be competitive i=
n one=20
  shot, unless you are Chuck Gee. &nbsp;No rush. That said, as much fun as =
it=20
  may be to build one, spending a little more up front to buy one that has =
been=20
  raced will probably save money in the long run. &nbsp;All that hardware -=
 dual=20
  braking system, competition shocks, fire system, roll cage, braided lines=
,=20
  heavy duty stub axles, spare wheels, fuel cell, etc, etc, etc is often he=
avily=20
  discounted in the price of a used race car. &nbsp;</div>
  <div>You'll still need to build a good engine and do countless other thin=
gs=20
  (race ready, ha!) but you can probably save money over the long=20
  haul.&nbsp;</div>
  <div>Who out there has a car for P.J.?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e">Sent from my mobile=20
  device&nbsp;</div>
  <div><br clear=3D"none">On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:44 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com";>mckearn2@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;=20
  wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div>O.K. I get it.&nbsp; Race car or street car. One&nbsp;or&nbsp; the=
=20
  other.&nbsp; I guess I'll&nbsp; have to build a race car and use it for t=
rack=20
  days.&nbsp; I just can't make the commitment to the time and money=20
  &nbsp;required for racing at this time. </div>
  <div>&nbsp; With that in mind, I would appreciate some help.&nbsp; Could =
I get=20
  a really low interest 30 year loan for about 50 Gs or so?&nbsp; Or just s=
ome=20
  honest opinions from time to time is good too.</div>
  <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
  P.J.</div></div>
  <div class=3D"yiv1699833845gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none">
  <div class=3D"yiv1699833845gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:15 PM, =
Jason Ostrowski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:jason@multivintage.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:ja=
son@multivintage.com">jason@multivintage.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">
  <blockquote class=3D"yiv1699833845gmail_quote" style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc =
1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;">
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
    <div>Better yet, take it the full&nbsp;step beyond... and forget about =
track=20
    days and street GT6's all together.</div>
    <div>It's way more useful as a racer.</div>
    <div>The real thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars.</div>
    <div>All that Track day talk is building a car for 1/2&nbsp;its duty bo=
th=20
    ways.</div>
    <div>Spend all that time and money, drive on the street and have some b=
ig=20
    SUV destroy it at a stop light.</div>
    <div>When it come to GT6's, there are race cars and there are street ca=
rs=20
    and never the two should be the same.</div>
    <div>Race.</div>
    <div>Full on Race.</div>
    <div>It will be the best and worst decision you will ever make all at t=
he=20
    same time.</div>
    <div>The fun and friendship that you get from racing the car will outwe=
igh=20
    any argument for the "track day concept".</div>
    <div>If you do either "properly" you will likely spend the same amount =
of=20
    money.</div>
    <div>But you will have way more fun racing.</div>
    <div>And you will be actually racing the thing.</div>
    <div>there is nothing better.</div>
    <div>We will give you all the help you need.</div>
    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
    <div>Jason Ostrowski</div>
    <div>Friendly Ghost Racing</div>
    <div>1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars</div>
    <div class=3D"yiv1699833845gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv1699833845gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:05 P=
M, McKearn McKearn=20
    <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:mckearn2@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com=
">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    <blockquote class=3D"yiv1699833845gmail_quote" style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb=
(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
      <div>Hi All.</div>
      <div>&nbsp; I'm starting on a new GT6 Motor and I have some=20
      questions.&nbsp; First are GT6 and TR6 cams really interchangeable?&n=
bsp;=20
      Also what compression ratio do you all feel is reasonable.&nbsp; This=
 car=20
      will seldom if ever see the street but will mostly be for track=20
      days?&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      P.J.</div></div><br clear=3D"none">__________________________________=
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