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To: McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
From: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:21:17 -0400
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I know you have more capability to build stuff than i do.  Kas' book =
with the Chuck Gee build is definitely worth having on hand as a =
reference, even if you do things differently.
Have fun - see you on the track!

On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:17 AM, McKearn McKearn wrote:

Hi.
  I love  to build cars and I enjoy building engines and transmissions =
as well as all the other stuff that goes in. Body work???? now that's =
another story. I know I'll spend way more money in the long run if I =
build my own car but then again it will be my car...wait...am I trying =
to talk myself into building a race car?????
 I already have a lot of what I need to get started so I guess I'm just =
going to go for it. So what if it takes me a few years. My last GT6 =
build took about ten and then I was really never  done tweaking. =20
 Quick before I really get going on this someone stop me........
                                                              P.J.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Bill Tobin =
<william.tobin31@verizon.net> wrote:
Race ready, yeah, heard that one before!
If you buy a used race car, take the purchase price and add that much =
more to it and you may be ready for the track!
The good news is that it will be set up to your liking. And your specs.
No regrets on my part; the Redhead is still fun to drive and I'm having =
a blast. May not be first but it was built to last.
Cheers, Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Janzen
To: McKearn McKearn
Cc: FOT list
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams

Race cars, especially GT6s, aren't built /set up to be competitive in =
one shot, unless you are Chuck Gee.  No rush. That said, as much fun as =
it may be to build one, spending a little more up front to buy one that =
has been raced will probably save money in the long run.  All that =
hardware - dual braking system, competition shocks, fire system, roll =
cage, braided lines, heavy duty stub axles, spare wheels, fuel cell, =
etc, etc, etc is often heavily discounted in the price of a used race =
car. =20
You'll still need to build a good engine and do countless other things =
(race ready, ha!) but you can probably save money over the long haul.=20
Who out there has a car for P.J.?

Sent from my mobile device=20

On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:44 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> =
wrote:

O.K. I get it.  Race car or street car. One or  the other.  I guess I'll =
 have to build a race car and use it for track days.  I just can't make =
the commitment to the time and money  required for racing at this time.
  With that in mind, I would appreciate some help.  Could I get a really =
low interest 30 year loan for about 50 Gs or so?  Or just some honest =
opinions from time to time is good too.
                         P.J.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jason Ostrowski =
<jason@multivintage.com> wrote:
Better yet, take it the full step beyond... and forget about track days =
and street GT6's all together.
It's way more useful as a racer.
The real thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars.
All that Track day talk is building a car for 1/2 its duty both ways.
Spend all that time and money, drive on the street and have some big SUV =
destroy it at a stop light.
When it come to GT6's, there are race cars and there are street cars and =
never the two should be the same.
Race.
Full on Race.
It will be the best and worst decision you will ever make all at the =
same time.
The fun and friendship that you get from racing the car will outweigh =
any argument for the "track day concept".
If you do either "properly" you will likely spend the same amount of =
money.
But you will have way more fun racing.
And you will be actually racing the thing.
there is nothing better.
We will give you all the help you need.

Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing
1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:05 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
Hi All.
  I'm starting on a new GT6 Motor and I have some questions.  First are =
GT6 and TR6 cams really interchangeable?  Also what compression ratio do =
you all feel is reasonable.  This car will seldom if ever see the street =
but will mostly be for track days?  Thanks.   P.J.

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
know you have more capability to build stuff than i do. &nbsp;Kas' book =
with the Chuck Gee build is definitely worth having on hand as a =
reference, even if you do things differently.<div>Have fun - see you on =
the track!</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:17 AM, McKearn =
McKearn wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi.</div><div>&nbsp; I love &nbsp;to build cars and I =
enjoy building engines and transmissions as well as all the other stuff =
that goes in. Body work???? now that's another story. I know I'll spend =
way more money in the long run if I build my own car but then again it =
will be my car...wait...am I trying to talk myself into building a race =
car?????</div><div>&nbsp;I already have a lot of what I need to get =
started so I guess I'm just going to go for it. So what if it takes me a =
few years. My last GT6 build took about ten and then&nbsp;I was really =
never&nbsp; done tweaking.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div><div>&nbsp;Quick before I =
really get going on this someone stop =
me........</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Bill Tobin <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:william.tobin31@verizon.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">william.tobin31@verizon.net</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Race ready, yeah, heard that one=20
before!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">If you buy a used race car, take =
the purchase price=20
and add that much more to it and you may be ready for the =
track!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The good news is that it will be =
set up to your=20
liking. And your specs.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">No regrets on my part; the Redhead =
is still fun to=20
drive and I'm having a blast. May not be first but it was built to=20
last.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Cheers, Bill</font></div>
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px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:so=
lid">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal =
arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">----- Original Message =
----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt/normal =
arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"sjanzen@me.com" href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">Scott Janzen</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal =
arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>To:</b> <a =
title=3D"mckearn2@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">McKearn McKearn</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal =
arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Cc:</b> <a =
title=3D"fot@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">FOT list</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal =
arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
October 30, 2015 8:32=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal =
arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Fot] Six cylinder=20
cams</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><span></span></div>
  <div>
  <div>Race cars, especially GT6s, aren't built /set up to be =
competitive in one=20
  shot, unless you are Chuck Gee.&nbsp; No rush. That said, as much fun =
as it=20
  may be to build one, spending a little more up front to buy one that =
has been=20
  raced will probably save money in the long run.&nbsp; All that =
hardware - dual=20
  braking system, competition shocks, fire system, roll cage, braided =
lines,=20
  heavy duty stub axles, spare wheels, fuel cell, etc, etc, etc is often =
heavily=20
  discounted in the price of a used race car. &nbsp;</div>
  <div>You'll still need to build a good engine and do countless other =
things=20
  (race ready, ha!) but you can probably save money over the long=20
  haul.&nbsp;</div>
  <div>Who out there has a car for P.J.?<br><br>Sent from my mobile=20
  device&nbsp;</div>
  <div><br>On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:44 PM, McKearn McKearn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>&gt;=20
  wrote:<br><br></div>
  <div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div>O.K. I get it.&nbsp; Race car or street car. One&nbsp;or&nbsp; =
the=20
  other.&nbsp; I guess I'll&nbsp; have to build a race car and use it =
for track=20
  days.&nbsp; I just can't make the commitment to the time and money=20
  &nbsp;required for racing at this time. </div>
  <div>&nbsp; With that in mind, I would appreciate some help.&nbsp; =
Could I get=20
  a really low interest 30 year loan for about 50 Gs or so?&nbsp; Or =
just some=20
  honest opinions from time to time is good too.</div>
  =
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
  P.J.</div></div>
  <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jason =
Ostrowski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jason@multivintage.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">jason@multivintage.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-widt=
h:1px;border-left-style:solid">
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
    <div>Better yet, take it the full&nbsp;step beyond... and forget =
about track=20
    days and street GT6's all together.</div>
    <div>It's way more useful as a racer.</div>
    <div>The real thrill of the Triumph world is Race cars.</div>
    <div>All that Track day talk is building a car for 1/2&nbsp;its duty =
both=20
    ways.</div>
    <div>Spend all that time and money, drive on the street and have =
some big=20
    SUV destroy it at a stop light.</div>
    <div>When it come to GT6's, there are race cars and there are street =
cars=20
    and never the two should be the same.</div>
    <div>Race.</div>
    <div>Full on Race.</div>
    <div>It will be the best and worst decision you will ever make all =
at the=20
    same time.</div>
    <div>The fun and friendship that you get from racing the car will =
outweigh=20
    any argument for the "track day concept".</div>
    <div>If you do either "properly" you will likely spend the same =
amount of=20
    money.</div>
    <div>But you will have way more fun racing.</div>
    <div>And you will be actually racing the thing.</div>
    <div>there is nothing better.</div>
    <div>We will give you all the help you need.</div>
    <div><br></div>
    <div>Jason Ostrowski</div>
    <div>Friendly Ghost Racing</div>
    <div>1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars</div>
    <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
    <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:05 PM, McKearn =
McKearn=20
    <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-widt=
h:1px;border-left-style:solid">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
      <div>Hi All.</div>
      <div>&nbsp; I'm starting on a new GT6 Motor and I have some=20
      questions.&nbsp; First are GT6 and TR6 cams really =
interchangeable?&nbsp;=20
      Also what compression ratio do you all feel is reasonable.&nbsp; =
This car=20
      will seldom if ever see the street but will mostly be for track=20
      days?&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      =
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