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Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack

To: Allen Washatko <awashatko@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:57:01 +0000 (UTC)
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Thread-topic: TR4 TR6 quick rack
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Does anyone have any photo's of the rack separation they could share ?=20
Thanks,=20
jim g=20

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From: "Allen Washatko" <awashatko@wi.rr.com>=20
To: "Sam Halkias" <atr6racer@hotmail.com>=20
Cc: "Tony Sheach" <tony.sheach@live.co.uk>, "<fot@autox.team.net>" <fot@aut=
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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:59:25 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack=20

The rack I purchased flew apart 20 minutes after it was installed on the TR=
6 while sitting in the garage!!!!=20

Allen=20
On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Sam Halkias wrote:=20




Same deal for me. At Indy last June the rack I had failed exactly the same =
way. Happened at the end of the front straight as I slowed from 130 to 50 f=
or the corner. The car started veering left towards the wall as I turned ri=
ght. I hit the wall at 35mph causing severe suspension and body damage.=20


Sam Halkias=20



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There were a large number of failures of these racks in the UK on both road=
 and competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is simply un=
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I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about 18 months apart. Bot=
h of these failures involved the pinion housing separating from the rack tu=
be at high speed in very dangerous circumstances.=20

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I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to anyone, whether for road or=
 competition use because the manufacturing quality is poor and the material=
 quality is similarly inadequate. The information that I was given at a mee=
ting face to face with MOSS in london have me the impression that some test=
ing had been done, but the solution to the problem really had not been foun=
d (ie do the job properly).=20

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I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece pinion housing and ra=
ck tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made in the UK. I will =
never use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again.=20

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Regards=20

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Tony=20

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Sent from my iPhone=20

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I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering rack for his TR4A. =C2=A0I =
told him there was a problem with them, but I thought it was resolved. =C2=
=A0I searched the archives=20

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and could find anything about it. =C2=A0Does someone in the group know the =
outcome of the problems that were brought to Moss on these quick racks?=20

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Thanks,=20

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Charly Mitchel=20

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#000000"><DIV aria-label="Compose body">Does anyone have any photo's of the 
rack separation they could share ?<BR></DIV>
<DIV aria-label="Compose body">Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV aria-label="Compose body">jim g</DIV>
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text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 
12pt;"><B>From: </B>"Allen Washatko" &lt;awashatko@wi.rr.com&gt;<BR><B>To: 
</B>"Sam Halkias" &lt;atr6racer@hotmail.com&gt;<BR><B>Cc: </B>"Tony Sheach" 
&lt;tony.sheach@live.co.uk&gt;, "&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;" 
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<BR><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:59:25 
AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The rack I purchased flew apart 20 minutes after it was 
installed on the TR6 while sitting in the garage!!!!
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Allen<BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Sam Halkias wrote:</DIV><BR 
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<DIV>Same deal for me. At Indy last June the rack I had failed exactly the same 
way. Happened at the end of the front straight as I slowed from 130 to 50 for 
the corner. The car started veering left towards the wall as I turned right. I 
hit the wall at 35mph causing severe suspension and body damage. <BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Sam Halkias<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Tony Sheach &lt;<A 
href="mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk"; target=_blank 
data-mce-href="mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk";>tony.sheach@live.co.uk</A>&gt; 
wrote:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Charly<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>There were a large number of failures of these racks in the UK on 
both road and competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is 
simply untrue.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about 18 months 
apart. Both of these failures involved the pinion housing separating from the 
rack tube at high speed in very dangerous circumstances.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to anyone, whether for 
road or competition use because the manufacturing quality is poor and the 
material quality is similarly inadequate. The information that I was given at a 
meeting face to face with MOSS in london have me the impression that some 
testing had been done, but the solution to the problem really had not been 
found (ie do the job properly).<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece pinion 
housing and rack tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made in the 
UK. I will never use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Regards<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Tony <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Sent from my iPhone<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly &lt;<A 
href="mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com"; target=_blank 
data-mce-href="mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com";>charly@mitchelplumbing.com</A>&gt;
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Friends,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering rack for his TR4A. 
&nbsp;I told him there was a problem with them, but I thought it was resolved. 
&nbsp;I searched the archives <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>and could find anything about it. &nbsp;Does someone in the group 
know the outcome of the problems that were brought to Moss on these quick 
racks?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks, <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Charly Mitchel<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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