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Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature

To: 'MadMarx' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>, 'FOT List' <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
From: Jeffrey De Pol <dep1505@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 05:20:16 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi Chris,
Is your expansion tank the highest point of your cooling system? You stated=
 that the expansion tank has a connection to the top of the radiator to rem=
ove air from the system. However, the radiator is not the highest point of =
the system. I'm not sure what intake manifold you are running, but you shou=
ld have a line that runs from just behind the thermostat housing (on top of=
 the intake manifold), to the top of the expansion tank. This allows trappe=
d air in the system to bleed out into the expansion tank. If you are runnin=
g an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold, you will have to drill and tap a =
hole into the top of the manifold for a hose nipple.=20

Hope this helps,
-Jeff De Pol.


    On Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:51 PM, Spitfire Racing <spitfire_racing@twcn=
y.rr.com> wrote:
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y to confirm a water gauge is to immerse the sensor in boiling water which =
is a known temperature as a reference. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Fot [mailt=
o:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 9:25 PM
To: MadMarx; 'FOT List'
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature =C2=A0I hate to ask Chris, but I'v=
e seen this before: are you sure your gauges are accurate? I saw this probl=
em on a well known car a while back.Electrical or mechanical?Could be worth=
 checking.Good luck.Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: MadMarx To: 'FOT List' Sent: Thursday, J=
uly 07, 2016 1:20 PMSubject: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature =C2=A0Hi guys, =C2=
=A0My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the t=
emps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've expe=
riment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing pump speed=
 didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and outlet is 10=C2=
=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump more slower? It w=
as running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed. Any id=
eas? 10 Liters are circulating. =C2=A0CheersChris__________________________=
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nnection to the top of the radiator to remove air from the system. However,=
 the radiator is not the highest point of the system. I'm not sure what int=
ake manifold you are running, but you should have a line that runs from jus=
t behind the thermostat housing (on top of the intake manifold), to the top=
 of the expansion tank. This allows trapped air in the system to bleed out =
into the expansion tank. If you are running an Edelbrock Performer intake m=
anifold, you will have to drill and tap a hole into the top of the manifold=
 for a hose nipple. <br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_58=
749" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_59125=
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622_58748" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622=
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#yiv3547855755 </style><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755WordSection1"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Easiest w=
ay to confirm a water gauge is to immerse the sensor in boiling water which=
 is a known temperature as a reference.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv354785=
5755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &nbsp;</=
span></div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755yqt1393120190" id=3D=
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C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal=
"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;"> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>=
Bill Tobin<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2016 9:25 PM<br =
clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> MadMarx; 'FOT List'<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"=
yiv3547855755MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">I hate to ask Chris, but=
 I've seen this before: are you sure your gauges are accurate? I saw this p=
roblem on a well known car a while back.</span><span lang=3D"DE"></span></d=
iv></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Electrical or mechanical?</span><span lang=3D"DE"></=
span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Could be worth checking.</span><span lang=3D=
"DE"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Good luck.</span><span lang=3D"DE"></=
span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Bill</span><span lang=3D"DE"></span></div></=
div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:=
0in 0in 0in 3.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margi=
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font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">----- Original Message ----- </span></div></=
div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal" style=3D"background:#E4E4E4;=
"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">From:</span></b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE"> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:tr4racing@googlemail.com" title=3D"tr4racing@googlemail.com">MadMarx</a> <=
/span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;" lang=3D"DE"> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; tit=
le=3D"fot@autox.team.net">'FOT List'</a> </span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE=
">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE"> Thursday, =
July 07, 2016 1:20 PM</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755Mso=
Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Subject:</span></b=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE"> [Fot] TR8 Water temperature=
</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"DE"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Hi guys,</span></div><div class=3D"yi=
v3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div=
><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">My=
 TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the temps =
are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.<br clear=3D"no=
ne">Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've =
experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing pump s=
peed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and outlet is 1=
0=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump more slower? =
It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed. </=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Any ideas? 10 Liters are=
 circulating.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv354=
7855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"DE">Cheers</spa=
n></div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;" lang=3D"DE">Chris</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv3547855755M=
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