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It is probably the progression circuit indeed. It seems there is no fuel
arriving at the progression holes at all and that you manage to overcome this
(when there is no load) with the accelerator pump (getting some fuel in the
tracts by fast pumping till the main circuit is taking over). Is this a new
installation? I know of a guy who does rebuild and inspect new Webers before
installing them!
Marcel
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Verzonden: Zaterdag 16 november 2019 03:10:46
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] DCOE setup on stock tr6
Yes I believe the vents are clear. It's a pretty large hole that goes into the
air filter housing if I'm not mistaken. But I will double check that.
Chris
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 8:51 PM Chuck Gee < [ mailto:chasgee22@gmail.com |
chasgee22@gmail.com ] > wrote:
Are the bowl vents clear?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot < [
> mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:
>
>
> More information is needed.
> I assume these are 40 DCOEs, not 45s?
> What size chokes are you running?
> Main jets, idle jets?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 7:52 PM, chris panayotti via Fot < [
>> mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I ran across an archive on your site from a Robert Lang, looks like from
>> December last year. So Taking a total shot in the dark emailing this. Anyway
>> in the thread he talks about running triple DCOEs on a Canon manafold on a
>> TR6 with stock cam and stock compression. I am trying to do the exact same.
>> He mentioned toward the end that he would be willing to share knowledge on
>> the jets and knowledge.
>>
>> So here it goes, the main symptom I am running into currently is accleration
>> off idle. It starts up and idles pretty good with mixture screws all out
>> about 1.25 turns. But bumping the throttle at that point either load or no
>> load bogs bigtime, bassically kills the engine if I hold it, even if I go
>> very slowly. I did manage to get it to a point where it revs so so if I keep
>> bumping it fast with no load, but with any load at all it bogs and dies.
>> I've come to the conclusion my progression circuit is to blame and that
>> operates off the idle jet, of which all are currently 50F11.
>>
>> I've gone over all the valve timing with a fine toothed comb and verified a
>> stock cam by checking the lift. All valve gaps are perfect At .010". I
>> removed the vacuum retard from the distributor and am running it at 12deg
>> BTDC right now, and the mechanical advance does work and brings it up to
>> 24ish deg. It is a stock points distributor by the way. I've read a few
>> people mention that I need to upgrade that but others have successfully used
>> it also. I've checked compression all are close and above 125psi.
>>
>> Any help or insight would be GREATLY appreciated. I've been trying to get
>> this to run right for weeks. I keep crossing things off the list but still
>> haven't gotten it right. I'm still concerned about the distributor but it
>> seems well enough that it should run properly. I'm fairly confident it's a
>> carb problem.
>>
>> If you need any more info about my setup please ask
>>
>> Thank you
>> Chris Panayotti
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>It is probably the =
progression circuit indeed. It seems there is no fuel arriving at the progr=
ession holes at all and that you manage to overcome this (when there is no =
load) with the accelerator pump (getting some fuel in the tracts by fa=
st pumping till the main circuit is taking over). Is this a new installatio=
n? I know of a guy who does rebuild and inspect new Webers before installin=
g them!</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__">=
<div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" <fot@autox.team.net&g=
t;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Chuck Gee" <chasgee22@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"fo=
t" <fot@autox.team.net><br><b>Verzonden: </b>Zaterdag 16 november 201=
9 03:10:46<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] DCOE setup on stock tr6<br></div>=
<br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Yes I belie=
ve the vents are clear. It's a pretty large hole that goes into the air fil=
ter housing if I'm not mistaken. But I will double check that.</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Chris<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019=
, 8:51 PM Chuck Gee <<a href=3D"mailto:chasgee22@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">chasgee22@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #=
ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border=
-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Are the bowl vents clear?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> =EF=BB=BF<br>
> More information is needed.<br>
> I assume these are 40 DCOEs, not 45s?<br>
> What size chokes are you running? <br>
> Main jets, idle jets?<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 7:52 PM, chris panayotti via Fot <<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> =EF=BB=BF<br>
>> Hi all, <br>
>> <br>
>> I ran across an archive on your site from a Robert Lang, looks lik=
e from December last year. So Taking a total shot in the dark emailing this=
. Anyway in the thread he talks about running triple DCOEs on a Canon manaf=
old on a TR6 with stock cam and stock compression. I am trying to do the ex=
act same. He mentioned toward the end that he would be willing to share kno=
wledge on the jets and knowledge.<br>
>> <br>
>> So here it goes, the main symptom I am running into currently is a=
ccleration off idle. It starts up and idles pretty good with mixture =
screws all out about 1.25 turns. But bumping the throttle at that point eit=
her load or no load bogs bigtime, bassically kills the engine if I hold it,=
even if I go very slowly. I did manage to get it to a point where it revs =
so so if I keep bumping it fast with no load, but with any load at all it b=
ogs and dies. I've come to the conclusion my progression circuit is t=
o blame and that operates off the idle jet, of which all are currently 50F1=
1.<br>
>> <br>
>> I've gone over all the valve timing with a fine toothed comb and v=
erified a stock cam by checking the lift. All valve gaps are perfect At .01=
0". I removed the vacuum retard from the distributor and am running i=
t at 12deg BTDC right now, and the mechanical advance does work and brings =
it up to 24ish deg. It is a stock points distributor by the way. =
; I've read a few people mention that I need to upgrade that but others hav=
e successfully used it also. I've checked compression all are close and abo=
ve 125psi.<br>
>> <br>
>> Any help or insight would be GREATLY appreciated. I've been trying=
to get this to run right for weeks. I keep crossing things off the list bu=
t still haven't gotten it right. I'm still concerned about the distributor =
but it seems well enough that it should run properly. I'm fairly confident =
it's a carb problem.<br>
>> <br>
>> If you need any more info about my setup please ask<br>
>> <br>
>> Thank you<br>
>> Chris Panayotti<br>
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