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To: Bob Bownes -Seiri <bownes@seiri.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid Six?
From: Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:36:25 -0600
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Got all the power stuff covered. With 40 foot depth I choose to run most
everything down the middle at 20'.  The welder and compressor 220V are on
the opposite wall from the breaker box..  I have another tip that I can
pass on from Robert MacKenzie,  I plan on a free floor lift and getting the
arms under teh car is always a pain.  Robert puts his car on a set of
dollies first. makes the arm swing a breeze.
Bob Kramer


On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:01 AM Bob Bownes -Seiri <bownes@seiri.com> wrote=
:

>
> It=E2=80=99s overkill, but I have an electrical reel and air hose reel ov=
er each
> bay. It comes in terribly handy.
>
> Don=E2=80=99t know about the planned lift, but mine is 220VAC, so don=E2=
=80=99t forget you
> may need that.
>
> On that note, I=E2=80=99ve been accumulating Real  Machine Tools of late =
that all
> need 220 3phase. So 220 drops are going in around the shop for those and
> the welder. I find it easier to move the welder to the work than the work
> to the welder sometimes.
>
> On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:54, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Those are great ideas. I used the RapidAir tubing system and I have an
> overhead run 20' in.  Dropping a line down and mounting it on both posts =
of
> the lifts would be a simple upgrade.. I did think ahead and wired in an
> extra 30 amp circuit up top. I was planning on using a retractable electr=
ic
> hose reel but dropping an outlet to the posts might be a better plan.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:52 AM Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob put the lift in the easiest accessible best lighted spot in the shop=
.
>> Also run air and power outlets to the lift; this eliminates stringing ho=
ses
>> and cords across the floor. Put a workbench close to the lift area; mayb=
e
>> on wheels. You can also never have too much shelving. Or lighting
>> especially as we age and eyesight isn't quite what is used to be! And ma=
ybe
>> have a small room sectioned off for your lathe milling machine and maybe
>> surface grinder.
>>
>> While you're at it maybe add another 10 or 20 feet to the original specs=
!
>>
>> Ask me how I learned all this stuff!
>>
>> Happy New Year everyone.
>>
>> Cheers Bill
>> On 12/31/2019 8:46 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
>>
>> Is that a 50 x 30?
>>
>> I built a 30 X 40 and it took the better part of a year to get it
>> outfitted between other stuff. Shelving, electrical, lighting, work
>> benches and air lines. With a 12' front door on a 30' front, I still can=
't
>> decide where to put a lift.
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:04 PM John Styduhar via Fot <
>> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently picked up an early TR4 frame from a fellow WPTA club member
>>> that is in decent shape and have all the necessary bits to build a wide
>>> track for my TR3.  This will be my next project after outfitting my new
>>> headquarters.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:57 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <
>>> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This TR3 Beta got me thinking.  The TR4 was based on a modified TR3
>>>> frame.  The TR4A frame was a totally new design, and adaptable to
>>>> either
>>>> the IRS or solid axle rear suspension.  The TR6 used basically the sam=
e
>>>> frame.  Are there solid axle TR6s out there?
>>>>
>>>> mjb.
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Got all the power stuff covered. With 40 foot depth I choo=
se=C2=A0to run most everything down the middle at 20&#39;.=C2=A0 The welder=
=C2=A0and compressor 220V are on the opposite=C2=A0wall from the breaker bo=
x..=C2=A0 I have another tip that I can pass on from Robert MacKenzie,=C2=
=A0 I plan on a free floor lift and getting the arms under teh car is alway=
s a pain.=C2=A0 Robert puts his car on a set of dollies first. makes the ar=
m swing a breeze.<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_sig=
nature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div=
></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:01 AM Bob Bownes -Seiri &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bownes@seiri.com";>bownes@seiri.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It=E2=80=99s overkill, but I have an el=
ectrical reel and air hose reel over each bay. It comes in terribly handy.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know =
about the planned lift, but mine is 220VAC, so don=E2=80=99t forget you may=
 need that.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On that =
note, I=E2=80=99ve been accumulating Real =C2=A0Machine Tools of late that =
all need 220 3phase. So 220 drops are going in around the shop for those an=
d the welder. I find it easier to move the welder to the work than the work=
 to the welder sometimes.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:54, Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Those are great ideas. I used the RapidAir tubing syste=
m and I have an overhead run 20&#39; in.=C2=A0 Dropping a line down and mou=
nting it on both posts of the lifts would be a simple upgrade.. I did think=
 ahead and wired in an extra 30 amp circuit up top. I was planning on using=
 a retractable electric hose reel but dropping an outlet to the posts might=
 be a better plan.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:52=
 AM Bill Tobin via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p>Bob put the lift in the easiest accessible best lighted spot in
      the shop. Also run air and power outlets to the lift; this
      eliminates stringing hoses and cords across the floor. Put a
      workbench close to the lift area; maybe on wheels. You can also
      never have too much shelving. Or lighting especially as we age and
      eyesight isn&#39;t quite what is used to be! And maybe have a small
      room sectioned off for your lathe milling machine and maybe
      surface grinder.</p>
    <p>While you&#39;re at it maybe add another 10 or 20 feet to the
      original specs!<br>
    </p>
    <p>Ask me how I learned all this stuff!</p>
    <p>Happy New Year everyone.</p>
    <p>Cheers Bill<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 12/31/2019 8:46 AM, Bob Kramer via
      Fot wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Is that a 50 x 30?=C2=A0
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I built a 30 X 40 and it took the better part of a year to
          get it outfitted between other stuff. Shelving, electrical,
          lighting, work benches=C2=A0and air lines. With a 12&#39; front d=
oor on
          a 30&#39; front, I still can&#39;t decide where to put a lift.</d=
iv>
        <div><br clear=3D"all">
          <div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:04
          PM John Styduhar via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">
            <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I
              recently picked up an early TR4 frame from a fellow WPTA
              club member that is in decent shape and have all the
              necessary bits to build a wide track for my TR3.=C2=A0 This
              will be my next project after outfitting my new
              headquarters.=C2=A0</div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at
              10:57 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This TR3 Beta=
 got me
              thinking.=C2=A0 The TR4 was based on a modified TR3 <br>
              frame.=C2=A0 The TR4A frame was a totally new design, and
              adaptable to either <br>
              the IRS or solid axle rear suspension.=C2=A0 The TR6 used
              basically the same <br>
              frame.=C2=A0 Are there solid axle TR6s out there?<br>
              <br>
              mjb.<br>
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