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To: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminium radiators
From: Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:18:02 -0600
Cc: robert bownes <bownes@seiri.com>, 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
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FOT,

We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable and th=
e quality is very good.  As some people feel that oil coolers are a consumab=
le a item, our research indicates the same may be true for aluminum radiator=
s in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things that can be done to help t=
hem live for years. However, they eventually need to be replaced due to the r=
elationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current.=20

Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with an al=
uminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the radiator v=
ery-very quickly.  Not to mention the mess the stops leaks product makes whe=
re your block and head ports are supposed to be able to move coolant.  If yo=
u are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it correctly.=20

I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing g=
ood.=20

Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago,=
 and it is really beautiful craftsmanship.  I had them duplicate the dimensi=
ons of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of business. =
 They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are g=
etting off-the-shelf.
>=20
> I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they c=
an be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is.  The last time I di=
d some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.
>=20
> Much, much lighter than stock, too.
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> Scott
>=20
> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
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> There are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from W=
izard Radiator (www.wizardcooling.com)
>=20
> There's a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a=
 discount.
>=20
> My one concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you can'=
t fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass is=
 more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, though.
>=20
> c ya,
> rml
>=20
> On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot <fot@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Wise(ned) ones,
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> Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the origi=
nal TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 to r=
e-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels ha=
ve thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get a n=
ew Al one than press my luck with the original.=20
>=20
> I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know m=
uch about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong=
 directions) so I figured I'd check here...
>=20
> Stay fast!
> Bob
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">FOT,<div><br></div><div>We have good experi=
ences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable and the quality is very g=
ood. &nbsp;As some people feel that oil coolers are a consumable a item, our=
 research indicates the same may be true for aluminum radiators in cars with=
 cast iron blocks. There are things that can be done to help them live for y=
ears. However, they eventually need to be replaced due to the relationship o=
f cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current.&nbsp;<div><br></div><di=
v>Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with an a=
luminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the radiator v=
ery-very quickly. &nbsp;Not to mention the mess the stops leaks product make=
s where your block and head ports are supposed to be able to move coolant. &=
nbsp;If you are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it correctly.&nbsp;<b=
r><div><br></div><div>I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased a=
nd it is still doing good.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Ricco<br><br>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;fot@autox.=
team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html=
; charset=3Dutf-8">I got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few mon=
ths ago, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship. &nbsp;I had them duplicat=
e the dimensions of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out o=
f business. &nbsp;They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe=
 less if you are getting off-the-shelf.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>=
<div class=3D"">I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few=
 times - they can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is. &nbs=
p;The last time I did some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable=
.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Much, much light=
er than stock, too.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"=
">Scott<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On=
 Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"A=
pple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"ydp5=
5b5b3c5yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ari=
al, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div class=3D""></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">There are a bunch o=
f answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from Wizard Radiator (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.wizardcooling.com"; class=3D"">www.wizardcooling.com</a>)</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">There's a guy on the Triumph=
s list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a discount.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">My one concern about aluminium radiators is t=
hat most of the time you can't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the b=
in for 'em. Copper / brass is more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" facto=
r, though.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">c ya,</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">rml<br class=3D""></div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp530db442yahoo_quoted_1346791563" class=3D"ydp530=
db442yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;" class=3D"">
               =20
                <div class=3D"">
                    On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bown=
es via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ydp530db442yiv1783638672" class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div cla=
ss=3D"">Wise(ned) ones,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=
=3D"">Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the o=
riginal TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 t=
o re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels=
 have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get=
 a new Al one than press my luck with the original. <br class=3D""></div><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I found 3 row versions for=
 a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know much about Triumphs (the pict=
ures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong directions) so I figured I'=
d check here...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">St=
ay fast!</div><div class=3D"">Bob</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></=
div>
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