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To: Paul Ricco <paulricco@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminium radiators
From: Dave Hogye via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:18:27 -0800
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I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiator for over 8 years now.  Also, n=
icely made and good fit in my TR3.  I ordered it with a shroud and puller fa=
n. $700 total.  Radiator only, $500.=20
They will build custom. I ordered mine without the problematic or crack pron=
e factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an expansion tank.=20
Dave H.


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> On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=

>=20
> =EF=BB=BFFOT,
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> We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have been reliable and t=
he quality is very good.  As some people feel that oil coolers are a consuma=
ble a item, our research indicates the same may be true for aluminum radiato=
rs in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things that can be done to help t=
hem live for years. However, they eventually need to be replaced due to the r=
elationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and electrical current.=20
>=20
> Also, I would say NEVER run any type of coolant stop leak product with an a=
luminum radiator, especially with an iron block. You will plug the radiator v=
ery-very quickly.  Not to mention the mess the stops leaks product makes whe=
re your block and head ports are supposed to be able to move coolant.  If yo=
u are swapping fluids, find the leak and fix it correctly.=20
>=20
> I am on year 5 with the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing=
 good.=20
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> Paul Ricco
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
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>> =EF=BB=BFI got a custom radiator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago=
, and it is really beautiful craftsmanship.  I had them duplicate the dimens=
ions of one I got twelve years ago from an outfit that went out of business.=
  They copied it perfectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are=
 getting off-the-shelf.
>>=20
>> I will say that I=E2=80=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they=
 can be welded or sealed depending on where the damage is.  The last time I d=
id some serious damage to it, so it was truly irreparable.
>>=20
>> Much, much lighter than stock, too.
>>=20
>> Scott
>>=20
>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> There are a bunch of answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from W=
izard Radiator (www.wizardcooling.com)
>>=20
>> There's a guy on the Triumphs list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at=
 a discount.
>>=20
>> My one concern about aluminium radiators is that most of the time you can=
't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the bin for 'em. Copper / brass i=
s more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" factor, though.
>>=20
>> c ya,
>> rml
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>> On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bownes via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
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>>=20
>>=20
>> Wise(ned) ones,
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>> Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the orig=
inal TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 to r=
e-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels ha=
ve thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get a n=
ew Al one than press my luck with the original.=20
>>=20
>> I found 3 row versions for a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know m=
uch about Triumphs (the pictures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong=
 directions) so I figured I'd check here...
>>=20
>> Stay fast!
>> Bob
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have been using a Griffin aluminum radiat=
or for over 8 years now. &nbsp;Also, nicely made and good fit in my TR3. &nb=
sp;I ordered it with a shroud and puller fan. $700 total. &nbsp;Radiator onl=
y, $500.&nbsp;<div>They will build custom. I ordered mine without the proble=
matic or crack prone factory style extended filler neck. I fill it from an e=
xpansion tank.&nbsp;<br><div>Dave H.</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
 from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 3=
, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<=
meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">FOT,=
<div><br></div><div>We have good experiences with Wizard as well. They have b=
een reliable and the quality is very good. &nbsp;As some people feel that oi=
l coolers are a consumable a item, our research indicates the same may be tr=
ue for aluminum radiators in cars with cast iron blocks. There are things th=
at can be done to help them live for years. However, they eventually need to=
 be replaced due to the relationship of cast iron, aluminum, water and elect=
rical current.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Also, I would say NEVER run any type=
 of coolant stop leak product with an aluminum radiator, especially with an i=
ron block. You will plug the radiator very-very quickly. &nbsp;Not to mentio=
n the mess the stops leaks product makes where your block and head ports are=
 supposed to be able to move coolant. &nbsp;If you are swapping fluids, find=
 the leak and fix it correctly.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>I am on year 5 w=
ith the last wizard that I purchased and it is still doing good.&nbsp;</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Paul Ricco<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:01 P=
M, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=
=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I got a custom radi=
ator for the GT6 from Wizard a few months ago, and it is really beautiful cr=
aftsmanship. &nbsp;I had them duplicate the dimensions of one I got twelve y=
ears ago from an outfit that went out of business. &nbsp;They copied it perf=
ectly. About a 6-8 week leadtime, maybe less if you are getting off-the-shel=
f.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I will say that I=E2=80=
=99d had the prior one repaired a few times - they can be welded or sealed d=
epending on where the damage is. &nbsp;The last time I did some serious dama=
ge to it, so it was truly irreparable.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
/div><div class=3D"">Much, much lighter than stock, too.</div><div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><=
div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Robert Lang v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D=
""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"ydp55b5b3c5yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-=
family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div cl=
ass=3D""></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">There are a bunch o=
f answers here, but a lot of TR6 crowd buys them from Wizard Radiator (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.wizardcooling.com"; class=3D"">www.wizardcooling.com</a>)</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">There's a guy on the Triumph=
s list - Art Lipp - that sells the Wizards at a discount.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">My one concern about aluminium radiators is t=
hat most of the time you can't fix them, so if you crack them, it's in the b=
in for 'em. Copper / brass is more forgiving. Ally does have the "wow" facto=
r, though.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">c ya,</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">rml<br class=3D""></div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
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db442yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;" class=3D"">
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                <div class=3D"">
                    On Monday, January 3, 2022, 03:55:59 PM EST, robert bown=
es via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ydp530db442yiv1783638672" class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div cla=
ss=3D"">Wise(ned) ones,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=
=3D"">Where are folks getting (street) Al radiators nowadays? Just got the o=
riginal TR6 rad back from the local radiator shop with an estimate of ~$360 t=
o re-core, re-cap the lower end, and get rid of all the acorns the squirrels=
 have thoughtfully stashed in mine, so I figure it's probably cheaper to get=
 a new Al one than press my luck with the original. <br class=3D""></div><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I found 3 row versions for=
 a bit under $200, but they don't seem to know much about Triumphs (the pict=
ures have the inlet/outlet pointing in the wrong directions) so I figured I'=
d check here...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">St=
ay fast!</div><div class=3D"">Bob</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></=
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