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My original 1967 Healey 3000 had a grease nipple on the pump.
=3D=3D Alex in Maine
"The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7
"Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321
Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8,=20
1965 MG Midget =E2=80=B9(=E2=80=A2=C2=BF=E2=80=A2)=E2=80=BA
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From: JOHN BAHE SR=20
To: Michael Salter=20
Cc: healeys=20
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pump
Michael,
When I purchased my 1966 BJ8 it came with an extra water pump that I =
was told was an original pump that had been rebuilt, I assume your =
rebuild kits are for an original pump but I am not sure how to tell an =
original 1966 BJ8 pump. The extra pump I have is cast iron but does not =
have the opening that shows the copper wire bearing retainer. The only =
number on the pump is by the outlet and is 170836. Any help identifying =
an original would be appreciated. Thanks for your time !!
John
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Michael Salter =
<michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Fred,
The Massey-Ferguson engine is a derivation of the TR4 wet sleeve 4 =
cylinder; or perhaps the other way around :-).
From memory the seal is the same as the later BJ7/8 pump but as I =
recall although the bearing shaft is the same length and diameter and =
the OD of the outer is the same the overall length of the outer is =
shorter and the races are closer together. I have a box of them =
somewhere back in Canada.
I think that is the bearing that has been used in the currently =
available repro pump..
I would imagine that it could be used made to work in an original =
BJ7/8 pump but it is not designed for that application and the loads on =
the bearings would be substantially increased as a result of the races =
being closer together.
Michael S
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com> =
wrote:
Years ago, a water pump builder rebuilt my BJ7 water pump and said =
the internals were the same as a Massey Ferguson tractor.
Fred
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE =
<ynotink@msn.com> wrote:
I understand that most of the Brits of the era shared some parts =
with tractors, Triumph especially. For that reason it's possible to =
cross reference water pump repair kits in some instances and source them =
from Tractor Supply stores. It would be interesting to know if this is =
true for the Austin 4s and 6s.
Bill Lawrence
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To: healeys@autox.team.net
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 09:18:24 -0800
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pump
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With all of this talk about water pump quality, has anyone =
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>My original 1967 Healey 3000 had a =
grease nipple=20
on the pump.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial>=3D=3D Alex in =
Maine<BR> =20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><EM>"The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin =
Healey 3000=20
BT7<BR> "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC=20
#1321<BR> Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H =
BJ8,=20
<BR> 1965 MG Midget =20
=E2=80=B9(=E2=80=A2=C2=BF=E2=80=A2)=E2=80=BA<BR> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djohnbahesr@gmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:johnbahesr@gmail.com";>JOHN BAHE=20
SR</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmichaelsalter@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 05, 2015 =
5:13=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Water =
Pump</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV>Michael,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>When I purchased my 1966 BJ8 it came with an extra water =
pump that I=20
was told was an original pump that had been rebuilt, I assume =
your=20
rebuild kits are for an original pump but I am not sure how to tell an =
original 1966 BJ8 pump. The extra pump I have is cast iron but =
does not=20
have the opening that shows the copper wire bearing retainer. =
The only=20
number on the pump is by the outlet and is 170836. Any help =
identifying=20
an original would be appreciated. Thanks for your time !!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Michael =
Salter <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>michaelsalter@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
small"=20
class=3Dgmail_default>Hi Fred,<BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
small"=20
class=3Dgmail_default>The Massey-Ferguson engine is a derivation of =
the TR4=20
wet sleeve 4 cylinder; or perhaps the other way around =
:-).<BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
small"=20
class=3Dgmail_default>From memory the seal is the same as the later =
BJ7/8 pump=20
but as I recall although the bearing shaft is the same length and =
diameter=20
and the OD of the outer is the same the overall length of the outer =
is=20
shorter and the races are closer together. I have a box of them =
somewhere=20
back in Canada.<BR>I think that is the bearing that has been used in =
the=20
currently available repro pump..<BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
small"=20
class=3Dgmail_default>I would imagine that it could be used made to =
work=20
in an original BJ7/8 pump but it is not designed for that =
application=20
and the loads on the bearings would be substantially increased as a =
result=20
of the races being closer together.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
small"=20
class=3Dgmail_default>Michael S<BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5>On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Fred Wescoe <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>fredwescoe@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> =
wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV>Years ago, a water pump builder rebuilt my BJ7 water pump and =
said=20
the internals were the same as a Massey Ferguson=20
tractor.<BR><BR></DIV>Fred<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"=20
target=3D_blank>ynotink@msn.com</A>></SPAN> =
wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>I understand that most of the Brits of the era =
shared some=20
parts with tractors, Triumph especially. For that reason it's =
possible=20
to cross reference water pump repair kits in some instances and =
source=20
them from Tractor Supply stores. It would be interesting to know =
if this=20
is true for the Austin 4s and 6s.<BR><BR>Bill Lawrence<BR><BR>
<HR>
From: <A href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net"=20
target=3D_blank>jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</A><BR>To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=20
target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR>Date: Mon, 2 Mar =
2015=20
09:18:24 -0800<SPAN><BR>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water =
Pump<BR><BR></SPAN>
<DIV>
<P><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Some=20
parts, like the impeller seal, are hard to get if you can find =
them at=20
all.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
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Healeys=20
[mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"=20
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6:16=20
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black">With all=20
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rebuilding=20
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