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Re: [Healeys] Spokes & Tubes

To: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> definitions=2016-09-09_14:, , signatures=0 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=-40 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1609020000 definitions=main-1609100060
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spokes & Tubes
From: Charlie Frazer <cfrazer@uoregon.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 21:30:23 -0700
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
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I appreciate your point Ira, but if you order wheels set up for tubeless =
from Dayton, they seal the bottoms of the nuts to the rim to prevent air =
leaks.
Tightening the nuts breaks the seal and then your tires lose air.
This is not to say that a failed wheel is preferable, just that fussing =
with the nuts brings on another set of problems.  And, just tightening =
the nuts doesn=92t assure that the wheel is true.
That=92s why I=92m asking if this is a common problem.  Maybe I got a =
bad set.
Charlie

On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:15 PM, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:

Its important to check your spikes and snug up the collars as part of =
regular maintenance. Thats why I swapped my 48 spikes for disc wheel =
disc brakes in 1980.
Glad you got home safely.

Ira Erbs
1959 100-6
MKI engine and disc brakes
Portland,OR


On Sep 9, 2016 6:00 PM, "Charlie Frazer" <cfrazer@uoregon.edu> wrote:
Rich Kahn=92s post and the following discussion about the HF tire =
changer began with his need to install inner tubes because of air loss =
and to replace broken spokes.
I=92m curious to know how common those problems are among wire wheel =
owners.

I ask because after returning from a 1200 mile trip to Rendezvous =
earlier this summer I discovered a rear wheel with 15 consecutive broken =
spokes, a pretty frightening percentage on a 60-spoke wheel.  I bought =
the wheels new and they have about 12,000 miles on them.  Never raced or =
abused.  Needless to say, they are past the 3 year warranty period.

How common is the problem of broken spokes?
Thanks,
Charlie Frazer
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charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I =
appreciate your point Ira, but if you order wheels set up for tubeless =
from Dayton, they seal the bottoms of the nuts to the rim to prevent air =
leaks.<div>Tightening the nuts breaks the seal and then your tires lose =
air.</div><div>This is not to say that a failed wheel is preferable, =
just that fussing with the nuts brings on another set of problems. =
&nbsp;And, just tightening the nuts doesn=92t assure that the wheel is =
true.</div><div>That=92s why I=92m asking if this is a common problem. =
&nbsp;Maybe I got a bad =
set.</div><div>Charlie</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:15 =
PM, i erbs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";>eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><p =
dir=3D"ltr">Its important to check your spikes and snug up the collars =
as part of regular maintenance. Thats why I swapped my 48 spikes for =
disc wheel disc brakes in 1980.<br>
Glad you got home safely.</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<br>
1959 100-6<br>
MKI engine and disc brakes<br>
Portland,OR</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 9, 2016 =
6:00 PM, "Charlie Frazer" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:cfrazer@uoregon.edu";>cfrazer@uoregon.edu</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">Rich Kahn=92s post and the following discussion =
about the HF tire changer began with his need to install inner tubes =
because of air loss and to replace broken spokes.<br>
I=92m curious to know how common those problems are among wire wheel =
owners.<br>
<br>
I ask because after returning from a 1200 mile trip to Rendezvous =
earlier this summer I discovered a rear wheel with 15 consecutive broken =
spokes, a pretty frightening percentage on a 60-spoke wheel.&nbsp; I =
bought the wheels new and they have about 12,000 miles on them.&nbsp; =
Never raced or abused.&nbsp; Needless to say, they are past the 3 year =
warranty period.<br>
<br>
How common is the problem of broken spokes?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Charlie Frazer<br>
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