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To: Linwood Rose <linwoodrose@mac.com>, David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
From: Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 12:14:30 +0000
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Also, with respect to cooling system pressure, the water pump seal in the 6=
 cylinder engines typically won't handle much over 10 p.s.i.. M
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of David Nock <hea=
leydoc@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:16:50 PM
To: Linwood Rose
Cc: Forum Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

If you are using the alloy radiator you have a short neck cap. Depending on=
 the press=92s app you are using you can not use a bellows type thermostat.=
 Because the bellows will collapse if you use anything over 7 lbs. Then the=
 thermostat will close and the engine will overheat.

Sent from my iPhone

odrose@mac.com>> wrote:

I would like to go back to Steve Byers=92 comment. I am not so much concern=
ed about my car overheating. When the engine was rebuilt it was thoroughly =
cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an aluminum radiator, have built an=
d installed air ducting for improved flow. I do not have an electric fan.

My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take quite a while to =93w=
arm up.=94 I think I was using a 165 degree (or thereabouts) non-sleeved th=
ermostat. Robert Shaw as I recall. So I wanted to get my engine up to 185-1=
90 degrees sooner. I went with one of the same AC sleeved thermostats 82 de=
grees centigrade from Kees that Steve used. The engine seems to be much hap=
pier and gets to running temp more quickly.

At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat keeps things cool too l=
ong. In a perfect world I would prefer David Nock=92s bellows thermostat bu=
t with a 185-190 degree opening. Since that doesn=92t seem to be available =
I think I will stick with the AC unit and keep my eye on the temp. Gauge.

I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience. Am I un=
derstanding all of this correctly?

Thanks,
Lin

Sent from my iPhone

a>> wrote:

To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a year in Canada?:) .  I lef=
t Calgary yesterday for the Rendezvous and it was snowing already. First ti=
me the hood contraption on the BN6 has been up since last September.

Sent from my iPhone

michael.salter@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved thermostats for the last wee=
k but now I just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats went NLA, about =
45 years ago, we resorted to installing just plain old Stant 175 degree sta=
ts and guess what ... not one complaint or comment on running hotter or ove=
rheating and absolutely no sign of any symptoms of overheating on my own BJ=
8 even in the hottest of ambient temperatures. It just didn't happen!!! Jus=
t sayin'. M
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM
To: Forum Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostats

Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right 160 degrees, middle no idea,  l=
eft is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) and has failed open.

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Also, with respect to cooling system pressure, the water pump seal in the 6=
 cylinder engines typically won't handle much over 10 p.s.i.. M
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ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of David Nock &lt;healeydoc@gmail.com&g=
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:16:50 PM<br>
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<div>If you are using the alloy radiator you have a short neck cap. Dependi=
ng on the press=92s app you are using you can not use a bellows type thermo=
stat. Because the bellows will collapse if you use anything over 7 lbs. The=
n the thermostat will close and the
 engine will overheat.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
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On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Linwood Rose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:linwoodrose=
@mac.com">linwoodrose@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
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<div>I would like to go back to Steve Byers=92 comment. I am not so much co=
ncerned about my car overheating. When the engine was rebuilt it was thorou=
ghly cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an aluminum radiator, have bui=
lt and installed air ducting for improved
 flow. I do not have an electric fan.&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take quite a while to=
 =93warm up.=94 I think I was using a 165 degree (or thereabouts) non-sleev=
ed thermostat. Robert Shaw as I recall. So I wanted to get my engine up to =
185-190 degrees sooner. I went with
 one of the same AC sleeved thermostats 82 degrees centigrade from Kees tha=
t Steve used. The engine seems to be much happier and gets to running temp =
more quickly.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat keeps things cool =
too long. In a perfect world I would prefer David Nock=92s bellows thermost=
at but with a 185-190 degree opening. Since that doesn=92t seem to be avail=
able I think I will stick with the AC
 unit and keep my eye on the temp. Gauge.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience. Am=
 I understanding all of this correctly?&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Lin<br>
<br>
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On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";>=
rvmaylor@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a year in Canada?:) . &=
nbsp;I left Calgary yesterday for the Rendezvous and it was snowing already=
. First time the hood contraption on the BN6 has been up since last Septemb=
er. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
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<div><br>
On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.sal=
ter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved thermostats for the las=
t week but now I just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats went NLA, a=
bout 45 years ago, we resorted to installing just plain old Stant 175 degre=
e stats and guess what ... not one
 complaint or comment on running hotter or overheating and absolutely no si=
gn of any symptoms of overheating on my own BJ8 even in the hottest of ambi=
ent temperatures. It just didn't happen!!! Just sayin'. M
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<div id=3D"x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; on behalf of Rossm &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";>rvmaylor@=
shaw.ca</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Forum Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Thermostats</font>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right 160 de=
grees, middle no idea,&nbsp; left is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) and has fai=
led open.
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