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7 Psi should be more than enough on these old engines. Water pump seal
may fail (as mentioned), so may the hoses and the original style
radiator if you operate under a higher pressure. Modern cars can take
much higher pressures of 20Psi or more. If your cooling system is up to
scratch there should not be a problem. i.e. clean system, radiator with
enough capacity, thermostatically controlled electric fan to keep things
under control in dense traffic and hot weather. The electric fan may not
be original but when these cars were new traffic conditions were not as
demanding as in these days. It just keeps you out of trouble at very
little costs and a bit of ingenuity (breakers yard).
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 17-9-2018 om 14:14 schreef Michael Salter:
> Also, with respect to cooling system pressure, the water pump seal in
> the 6 cylinder engines typically won't handle much over 10 p.s.i.. M
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of David
> Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:16:50 PM
> *To:* Linwood Rose
> *Cc:* Forum Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
> If you are using the alloy radiator you have a short neck cap.
> Depending on the press?s app you are using you can not use a bellows
> type thermostat. Because the bellows will collapse if you use anything
> over 7 lbs. Then the thermostat will close and the engine will overheat.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Linwood Rose <linwoodrose@mac.com
>
>> I would like to go back to Steve Byers? comment. I am not so much
>> concerned about my car overheating. When the engine was rebuilt it
>> was thoroughly cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an aluminum
>> radiator, have built and installed air ducting for improved flow. I
>> do not have an electric fan.
>>
>> My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take quite a while
>> to ?warm up.? I think I was using a 165 degree (or thereabouts)
>> non-sleeved thermostat. Robert Shaw as I recall. So I wanted to get
>> my engine up to 185-190 degrees sooner. I went with one of the same
>> AC sleeved thermostats 82 degrees centigrade from Kees that Steve
>> used. The engine seems to be much happier and gets to running temp
>> more quickly.
>>
>> At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat keeps things cool
>> too long. In a perfect world I would prefer David Nock?s bellows
>> thermostat but with a 185-190 degree opening. Since that doesn?t seem
>> to be available I think I will stick with the AC unit and keep my eye
>> on the temp. Gauge.
>>
>> I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience.
>> Am I understanding all of this correctly?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lin
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm <rvmaylor@shaw.ca
>>
>>> To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a year in Canada?:) .
>>> I left Calgary yesterday for the Rendezvous and it was snowing
>>> already. First time the hood contraption on the BN6 has been up
>>> since last September.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved thermostats for the
>>>> last week but now I just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats
>>>> went NLA, about 45 years ago, we resorted to installing just plain
>>>> old Stant 175 degree stats and guess what ... not one complaint or
>>>> comment on running hotter or overheating and absolutely no sign of
>>>> any symptoms of overheating on my own BJ8 even in the hottest of
>>>> ambient temperatures. It just didn't happen!!! Just sayin'. M
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM
>>>> *To:* Forum Healeys
>>>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Thermostats
>>>> Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right 160 degrees, middle no
>>>> idea, left is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) and has failed open.
>>>>
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<p>7 Psi should be more than enough on these old engines. Water pump
seal may fail (as mentioned), so may the hoses and the original
style radiator if you operate under a higher pressure. Modern cars
can take much higher pressures of 20Psi or more. If your cooling
system is up to scratch there should not be a problem. i.e. clean
system, radiator with enough capacity, thermostatically controlled
electric fan to keep things under control in dense traffic and hot
weather. The electric fan may not be original but when these cars
were new traffic conditions were not as demanding as in these
days. It just keeps you out of trouble at very little costs and a
bit of ingenuity (breakers yard).<br>
</p>
<p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 17-9-2018 om 14:14 schreef Michael
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Also, with respect to cooling system pressure, the water pump seal
in the 6 cylinder engines typically won't handle much over 10
p.s.i.. M
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
on behalf of
David Nock <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";><healeydoc@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:16:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Linwood Rose<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Forum Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Thermostats</font>
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<div>If you are using the alloy radiator you have a short neck
cap. Depending on the press?s app you are using you can not use
a bellows type thermostat. Because the bellows will collapse if
you use anything over 7 lbs. Then the thermostat will close and
the engine will overheat. <br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Linwood Rose <<a
href="mailto:linwoodrose@mac.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">linwoodrose@mac.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div>I would like to go back to Steve Byers? comment. I am not
so much concerned about my car overheating. When the engine
was rebuilt it was thoroughly cleaned to get rid of all
sludge. I run an aluminum radiator, have built and installed
air ducting for improved flow. I do not have an electric
fan.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take
quite a while to ?warm up.? I think I was using a 165
degree (or thereabouts) non-sleeved thermostat. Robert
Shaw as I recall. So I wanted to get my engine up to
185-190 degrees sooner. I went with one of the same AC
sleeved thermostats 82 degrees centigrade from Kees that
Steve used. The engine seems to be much happier and gets
to running temp more quickly.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat
keeps things cool too long. In a perfect world I would
prefer David Nock?s bellows thermostat but with a 185-190
degree opening. Since that doesn?t seem to be available I
think I will stick with the AC unit and keep my eye on the
temp. Gauge.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my
experience. Am I understanding all of this correctly? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Lin<br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm <<a
href="mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";
moz-do-not-send="true">rvmaylor@shaw.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a
year in Canada?:) . I left Calgary yesterday for the
Rendezvous and it was snowing already. First time the
hood contraption on the BN6 has been up since last
September. <br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael Salter <<a
href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Well I have watched this discussion on
sleeved thermostats for the last week but now I
just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats
went NLA, about 45 years ago, we resorted to
installing just plain old Stant 175 degree stats
and guess what ... not one complaint or comment
on running hotter or overheating and absolutely
no sign of any symptoms of overheating on my own
BJ8 even in the hottest of ambient temperatures.
It just didn't happen!!! Just sayin'. M
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Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
on behalf of Rossm <<a
href="mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";
moz-do-not-send="true">rvmaylor@shaw.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 15, 2018
10:35:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Forum Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Thermostats</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Three sleeved
thermostats, one on the right 160 degrees,
middle no idea, left is a Smiths x85002s/86
(180F) and has failed open.
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