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Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!

To: "'Steven Kingsbury'" <airtightproductions@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!
From: gradea1@charter.net
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 17:06:50 +0000 jlTJwg06Dw5A1iTq8DVpdZUs6L7tuiFnlgL3P6enur0lhfcWqByLlHjFRe9vsPcBQLSQ6+wb+LlP0vOyHSZsg2A9f2F86die1h0=
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Hi Steven-good to hear from you!=0A=0A=09That's a nice test, but I would=
 magnaflux the head for cracks between=0A2-3 and have it shaved flat...c=
ould be a head gasket leak due to=0Awarped head...especially if valves a=
nd rings checked good.=0A=0A=09Also, I don't recommend NGK plugs- use Ch=
ampion N-5...maybe cause of=0Acarbon on valves. Unless cam is flat, valv=
e spring broken or tappet=0Arods bent/broken, problem is in head-block f=
it.=0A=0A=09Regards, Hank Leach=0A=0A=09--------------------------------=
---------From: "Steven Kingsbury via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: healeys@autox.tea=
m.net=0ACc: =0ASent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM=0ASubject: [Healey=
s] Four cylinder woes, part two!=0A=0AOkay, here's the latest! I finally=
 got to pull my head. If you=0Aremember, I had 155 lbs of pressure in cy=
linders 1, 3, and 4 and only=0A25 lbs in cylinder number two. So with th=
e head off, I was prepared to=0Afind a problem with I flipped it over to=
 expose the valves, no such=0Aluck. Other than number two exhaust valve=
 being a bit black, no=0Acracks, nothing stuck and it looked fine. So th=
en I went to look into=0Athe cylinders themselves, walls smooth, flat hi=
gh compression pistons=0Asmooth, number three a bit rough on the top, bu=
t other than that and=0Agood. So then I went back to the head, put the s=
park plugs back in and=0Afilled the combustion chambers with paint thinn=
er to see where it=0Awould leak out. Filled each chamber evenly and wait=
ed. Twelve hours=0Alater, and other than evaporation, no leaks! All cham=
bers still even=0Ain their fluid retention.  So then I rotated the crank=
 to get all the=0Apistons to an almost even position and put paint thinn=
er in the=0Acylinders at the same depth. No quick leak, not one cylinder=
 faster=0Athan the others and all the fluid finally drained out smoothly=
 and=0Aevenly in each cylinder.  I'm a bit stumped. My next step is taki=
ng=0Athe head to a guy in town, an old machinist who builds his own engi=
nes=0Aand runs his car at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He knows what=
=0Ahe's doing and I'm sure he will give me some sage advice and help.=0A=
Also as a side note, I went over the head with a magnifying glass and=0A=
can see now cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not there I know. I=
=0Awas just thinking with a 100 pound plus difference, something would b=
e=0Aobvious.  I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover on the=
=0Aside, inspect all the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I=
=0Asaid, I'm a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find something=0A=
wrong! Here are some photos for you, maybe you can see something I=0Acan=
't.=0AHere's the head, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on=
=0Anumber two is blacker than the others, but no cracks, chips, or=0Avis=
ible damage.And here's the fluid I placed in the combustion=0Achambers.=
 It didn't drain out and just sat there.

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<html><body>Hi Steven-good to hear from you!<p>That's a nice test, but I=
 would magnaflux the head for cracks between 2-3 and have it shaved flat=
..could be a head gasket leak due to warped head...especially if valves=
 and rings checked good.</p><p>Also, I don't recommend&nbsp; NGK plugs-=
 use Champion N-5...maybe cause of carbon on valves. Unless cam is flat,=
 valve spring broken or tappet rods bent/broken, problem is in head-bloc=
k fit.</p><p>Regards, Hank Leach<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signatur=
e"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Steven K=
ingsbury via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team=
net<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM<br>Subject: [Heal=
eys] Four cylinder woes, part two!<br><br><div><div style=3D"color: #000=
000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; fon=
t-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-v=
ariant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:=
 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spa=
ce: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px=
; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-=
mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', He=
lvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-l=
igatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-sp=
acing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tra=
nsform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit=
-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration=
-color: initial;">Okay, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my head=
 If you remember, I had 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 an=
d only 25 lbs in cylinder number two. So with the head off, I was prepar=
ed to find a problem with I flipped it over to expose the valves, no suc=
h luck. Other than number two exhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks=
, nothing stuck and it looked fine. So then I went to look into the cyli=
nders themselves, walls smooth, flat high compression pistons smooth, nu=
mber three a bit rough on the top, but other than that and good.</div><d=
iv style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Hel=
vetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-li=
gatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spa=
cing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tran=
sform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-=
text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-=
color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText=
, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style:=
 normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; tex=
t-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; wor=
d-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: i=
nitial; text-decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So then I wen=
t back to the head, put the spark plugs back in and filled the combustio=
n chambers with paint thinner to see where it would leak out. Filled eac=
h chamber evenly and waited. Twelve hours later, and other than evaporat=
ion, no leaks! All chambers still even in their fluid retention.&nbsp;</=
div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue=
', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-vari=
ant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; lett=
er-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; tex=
t-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -w=
ebkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decor=
ation-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SF=
NSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-s=
tyle: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;=
 font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start=
; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2=
; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-sty=
le: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So then=
 I rotated the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even position a=
nd put paint thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak,=
 not one cylinder faster than the others and all the fluid finally drain=
ed out smoothly and evenly in each cylinder.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"co=
lor: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-s=
erif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: norma=
l; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal;=
 orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;=
 white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-=
width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initi=
al;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica=
 Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font=
-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300;=
 letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px=
; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0p=
x; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-=
decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm a bit stumped. My next=
 step is taking the head to a guy in town, an old machinist who builds h=
is own engines and runs his car at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He k=
nows what he's doing and I'm sure he will give me some sage advice and h=
elp. Also as a side note, I went over the head with a magnifying glass a=
nd can see now cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not there I know.=
 I was just thinking with a 100 pound plus difference, something would b=
e obvious.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSTex=
t, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style:=
 normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; tex=
t-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; wor=
d-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: i=
nitial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #00000=
0; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-=
size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-var=
iant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;=
 text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:=
 normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover on the side,=
 inspect all the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I said, I'm=
 a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find something wrong! Here ar=
e some photos for you, maybe you can see something I can't.</div><div st=
yle=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetic=
a, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatur=
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ormal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-w=
eight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-=
indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-=
spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: ini=
tial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;=
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nt-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; t=
ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; tex=
t-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Here's the=
 head, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on number two is bl=
acker than the others, but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.</div><di=
v style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helv=
etica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-lig=
atures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spac=
ing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-trans=
form: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-t=
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eight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-=
indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-=
spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: ini=
tial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><img src=3D"/index.php/inbox/atta=
chment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_172123.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX378063db=
bf369419c0843730f10637ee2493c" class=3D"_auto-scale " alt=3D"IMG_2020031=
1_172123.jpg" title=3D"IMG_20200311_172123.jpg" style=3D"margin: 10px 10=
px 10px 0px;" data-inline-image=3D"true" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 10px=
 10px 10px 0px;"></div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSTe=
xt, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style=
: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; fon=
t-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; te=
xt-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; wo=
rd-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style:=
 initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000=
000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; fon=
t-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-v=
ariant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:=
 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spa=
ce: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px=
; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">And h=
ere's the fluid I placed in the combustion chambers. It didn't drain out=
 and just sat there.</div></div></healeys@autox.team.net></p></body></ht=
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