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Amazon -$76.11 (?) for 3 5gal VR 1 20/50.
On Sat, May 2, 2020, 9:33 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site
> was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next
> best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.
> Gary Hodson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
>
> Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50;
> still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before
> refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few
> years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I nev=
er
> got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it on any parts house
> shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than
> $4/qt I'll be happy.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
> shared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives
> was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not
> display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have
> used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc.
> However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. =
I
> also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outle=
t
> for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some Californi=
a
> rule changes. I wondered it this happened to Red Line.
>
> So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response
> sent one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to
> respond. While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
> response did come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU
> 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tapp=
et
> cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.
>
> As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottl=
e
> is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6
> grams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
> much. I am just not inclined to experiment.
>
> The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, ev=
en for tropical
> heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Green Book) h=
as a much more
> expansive table that promotes a lot of weights depending on the
> manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
> available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty.
>
> I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was
> an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. The=
re
> were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=
=80=99s
> 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for =
me to
> use a heavier oil.
>
> Many thanks to the folks who responded.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Amazon -$76.11 (?) for 3 5gal=C2=A0 VR 1 20/50.</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Ma=
y 2, 2020, 9:33 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">The best price I could find for =
Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quart & it was sh=
ipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best price was $9.=
11/quart shipping from Speedway.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<br clear=
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Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1
20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I
bought from before refused to ship to me.=C2=A0 The Valvoline saga has
some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had t=
o
pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either.=
=C2=A0
I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as
Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">Thanks
all.<span>=C2=A0 </span>As is
usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
shared by the list. <span>=C2=A0</span>What
triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
did not display the usual statement that it contains
ZDDP. <span>=C2=A0</span>For
decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil
pressure, suites the climate, etc. <span>=C2=A0</span>How=
ever, if Red
Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.
<span>=C2=A0</span>I also
recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to
find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed
that it no longer cleared some California rule
changes. <span>=C2=A0</span>I
wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"=
>=C2=A0</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">So,
I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a
rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span>=C2=A0=
</span>The Healey group
was much faster to respond. <span>=C2=A0</span>While most
business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
response did come. <span>=C2=A0</span>The
assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin
Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc an=
d
more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"=
>As to their break in additive, their Web site
indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a
conventional oil.<span>=C2=A0 </span>It
also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span>=C2=A0 </span>I =
have to
wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
much.<span>=C2=A0 </span>I am
just not inclined to experiment.</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"=
>=C2=A0</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">The
3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 we=
ight oil,
even for tropical heat.<span>=C2=A0 </span>However, the =
=E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the
Green Book) has a much more expansive table that
promotes a lot of weights depending on the
manufacturer.<span>=C2=A0 </span>The
aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
available when the book came out adds a bit more
uncertainty.<span>=C2=A0 </span></span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">=C2=A0</span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">I
am confident using the 10W40.<span>=C2=A0 </span>I used 1=
0W50 in
my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was
REAL hard to start in freezing weather.<span>=C2=A0 </spa=
n>There were also
a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red
Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.<span>=C2=A0 </span>The
oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside =
for
me to use a heavier oil.</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">=C2=A0</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;=
color:black">Many
thanks to the folks who responded.<span>=C2=A0 </span></s=
pan></div>
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s New Roman',serif">=C2=A0</span></div>
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s New Roman',serif">Bill</span></div>
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