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Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.

To: "warthodson@aol.com" <warthodson@aol.com>, "bspidell@comcast.net" <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
From: Warren <flyhihealey@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 10:13:49 -0400
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Thread-topic: RE: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Amazon has VR 1 20\50 for $76.71 . 3=
-5gal ct.(15qts)</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"http=
s://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p=
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er-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in=
'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>warthodson--- via Healeys</a><br><b>Se=
nt: </b>Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:33 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:bspid=
ell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Oil a=
dditives -- great informaton. Thanks.</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div id=3Dyiv0208102013><div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:bl=
ack'>The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's sit=
e was $7.03/quart &amp; it was shipping from &quot;Zoro&quot;, who ever tha=
t is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12=
.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:=
black'>Gary Hodson<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Bob Spid=
ell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Fri=
, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great inf=
ormaton. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv0208102013yqt13193><div =
id=3Dyiv0208102013><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black=
'>Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; s=
till don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before re=
fused to ship to me.&nbsp; The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a fe=
w years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I nev=
er got an explanation there, either.&nbsp; I haven't seen it on any parts h=
ouse shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than=
 $4/qt I'll be happy.<br><br>Bob<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv=
0208102013yqt73128><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoff=
bn7--- via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=3D=
yiv0208102013yqt06343><div><div><div id=3Dyiv0208102013><div><div><div styl=
e=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14=
.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Hi,&nbsp;</span><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Thanks all.&nbsp; A=
s is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience shared by the li=
st. &nbsp;What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the obser=
vation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the usual s=
tatement that it contains ZDDP. &nbsp;For decades I have used that oil as i=
t carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc. &nbsp;However, if R=
ed Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. &nbsp;I also reca=
lled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvo=
line 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some California rule chan=
ges. &nbsp;I wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-=
family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>S=
o, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response sent =
one to our Healey group. &nbsp;The Healey group was much faster to respond.=
 &nbsp;While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response=
 did come. &nbsp;The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)=
 contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam a=
nd lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.</span><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>As to their break=
 in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle is enough to add =
to a conventional oil.&nbsp; It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.&nbsp; I=
 have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too much.&nbsp;=
 I am just not inclined to experiment.</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times=
 New Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times =
New Roman",serif;color:black'>The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual onl=
y mentions 30 weight oil, even for tropical heat.&nbsp; However, the =E2=80=
=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Green Book) has a much more expansive tab=
le that promotes a lot of weights depending on the manufacturer.&nbsp; The =
aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those available when the b=
ook came out adds a bit more uncertainty.&nbsp; </span><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>I am confident using the 10W40.&nbs=
p; I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was REAL=
 hard to start in freezing weather.&nbsp; There were also a lot of reputabl=
e recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.&nbsp; The oil pr=
essure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside for me to use a heavier =
oil.</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;c=
olor:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;co=
lor:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Many=
 thanks to the folks who responded.&nbsp; </span><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"T=
imes New Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Ti=
mes New Roman",serif;color:black'>Bill</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-s=
erif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:bla=
ck'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><=
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