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My local NAPA carries VR1 20W50 and told me there are no problems =
selling it in CA.
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:11 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
=20
Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; =
still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from =
before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange =
twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the =
shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it =
on any parts house shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for =
free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.
Bob
On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
Hi,=20
Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience =
shared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives =
was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not =
display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have =
used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, =
etc. However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another =
oil. I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a =
new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared =
some California rule changes. I wondered it this happened to Red Line.
=20
So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response =
sent one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to =
respond. While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line =
response did come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU =
11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat =
tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm =
phosphorus.
As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half =
bottle is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of =
sulfur, 16.6 grams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could =
result in too much. I am just not inclined to experiment.
=20
The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, =
even for tropical heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D =
(the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of =
weights depending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are =
a bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit =
more uncertainty. =20
=20
I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was =
an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. =
There were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red =
Line=E2=80=99s 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t =
see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.
=20
Many thanks to the folks who responded. =20
=20
Bill
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>My local NAPA carries VR1 20W50 and told me there are no =
problems selling it in CA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2020 9:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- =
great informaton. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Walmart had no problem shipping me a =
crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit =
in the Midwest I bought from before refused to ship to me. The =
Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite =
parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation =
there, either. I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, =
but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be =
happy.<br><br>Bob<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div =
id=3Dyiv8049466780><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Hi, </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Thanks all.=C2=A0 As is usual =
there is a lot of good discourse and experience shared by the =
list.=C2=A0 What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the =
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the =
usual statement that it contains ZDDP.=C2=A0 For decades I have used =
that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, =
etc.=C2=A0 However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find =
another oil.=C2=A0 I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell =
having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no =
longer cleared some California rule changes.=C2=A0 I wondered it this =
happened to Red Line.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>So, I sent off an inquiry to Red =
Line and not getting a rapid response sent one to our Healey =
group.=C2=A0 The Healey group was much faster to respond.=C2=A0 While =
most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did =
come.=C2=A0 The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) =
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam =
and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm =
phosphorus.<br><br><br></span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>As to their break in additive, =
their Web site indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a =
conventional oil.=C2=A0 It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.=C2=A0 I =
have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too =
much.=C2=A0 I am just not inclined to experiment.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>The 3000=E2=80=99s =
owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for tropical =
heat.=C2=A0 However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Green =
Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights =
depending on the manufacturer.=C2=A0 The aspect that modern oils are a =
bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit =
more uncertainty.=C2=A0 </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I am confident using the =
10W40.=C2=A0 I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine =
and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather.=C2=A0 There were also a =
lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line=E2=80=99s =
10W40.=C2=A0 The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an =
upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Many thanks to the folks who =
responded.=C2=A0 </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Bill</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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