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Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.
From: john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 17:05:34 +0000
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Bob
Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?

I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights coming on is
very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This
confusing array is therefore dangerous. In the UK amber turn lights have
been mandatory for many years. Younger drivers would not
understand anything but amber.

The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights connected on
the existing wires but connect both red stoplights to this additional wire.
At the relay box, all is needed is one wire being redirected to the new
wire.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2 (probably from
> Moss). I thought the harness was good quality overall, and everything
> worked except the turn signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything;
> we went so far as to open the relay box, but everything looked good in
> there. I eventually discovered the wiring to one of the rear brake/turn
> lights was mis-colored. This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare
> chassis just from the schematic and it would have been 100% correct if not
> for the misidentified wire. I'll probably never sell the car, but whoever
> ends up with it will be confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged
> from the schematic. Come to think of it, I should probably label the flaw
> ... as soon as I finish all the other stuff needs fixin'.
>
> Bob
>
> On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
>
> Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of components
> tonight.  Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage regulator.  Looking
> at a wiring diagram, the way you see in the two pictures is mostly correct,
> but look at what the arrows are pointing at.  At the point in the harness
> where the wires come out of the loom for the fuse block, you can see on the
> right hand side the arrow is pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe.
> Good so far.  Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the other side of
> the fuse block.  It's a large solid brown wire.  Now in the wiring diagram
> this brown wire is supposed to be a continuation of the brown with a green
> stripe wire.  That brown wire with the green strip that was supposed to be
> there goes to the "A" connection of the voltage regulator.  Now look at the
> picture of the voltage regulator and notice what the orange arrow is
> pointing at. It is the other end of the plain, large brown wire!  The
> electrical connections are correct.  The color coding of the harness is
> not.  I have just started wiring.  What else might I find in the rest of
> the harness?  This harness was a gift from my late friend Tom Rocke.  It
> was one of many free parts he supplied for this rebuild.  Don't know if I
> should complain about a free harness.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<div>Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?</di=
v><div><br></div><div>I and many others in the UK feel that with just two r=
ed lights coming on is very confusing particularly as one enters a corner a=
nd brakes. This confusing=C2=A0array is therefore dangerous. In the UK ambe=
r turn=C2=A0lights have been mandatory for many years. Younger drivers woul=
d=C2=A0not understand=C2=A0anything but amber.</div><div><br></div><div>The=
 mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights connected on th=
e existing wires but connect both red stoplights to this additional wire. A=
t the relay box, all is needed is one wire being redirected to the new wire=
.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspi=
dell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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  <div>
    Michael,<br>
    <br>
    I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2 (probably
    from Moss). I thought the harness was good quality overall, and
    everything worked except the turn signals. I spent 3 days
    double-checking everything; we went so far as to open the relay box,
    but everything looked good in there. I eventually discovered the
    wiring to one of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-colored. This
    really pissed me off, as I&#39;d wired a bare chassis just from the
    schematic and it would have been 100% correct if not for the
    misidentified wire. I&#39;ll probably never sell the car, but whoever
    ends up with it will be confused, as a couple of wires are
    interchanged from the schematic. Come to think of it, I should
    probably label the flaw ... as soon as I finish all the other stuff
    needs fixin&#39;.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&=
quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Was in the engine bay doing
          some preliminary wiring of components tonight.=C2=A0 Specifically=
,
          the fuse block and the voltage regulator.=C2=A0 Looking at a wiri=
ng
          diagram, the way you see in the two pictures is mostly
          correct, but look at what the arrows are pointing at.=C2=A0 At th=
e
          point in the harness where the wires come out of the loom for
          the fuse block, you can see on the right hand side the arrow
          is pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe.=C2=A0 Good so
          far.=C2=A0 Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the other si=
de
          of the fuse block.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a large solid brown wire.=C2=A0=
 Now in the
          wiring diagram this brown wire is supposed to be a
          continuation of the brown with a green stripe wire.=C2=A0 That
          brown wire with the green strip that was supposed to be there
          goes to the &quot;A&quot; connection of the voltage regulator.=C2=
=A0 Now look
          at the picture of the voltage regulator and notice what the
          orange arrow is pointing at. It is the other end of the plain,
          large brown wire!=C2=A0 The electrical connections are correct.=
=C2=A0
          The color coding of the harness is not.=C2=A0 I have just started
          wiring.=C2=A0 What else might I find in the rest of the harness?=
=C2=A0
          This harness was a gift from my late friend Tom Rocke.=C2=A0 It w=
as
          one of many free parts he supplied for this rebuild.=C2=A0 Don&#3=
9;t
          know if I should complain about a free harness.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

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