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To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.
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The Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown wire is co=
nnected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on the regulator.

The wires are correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH 100 Se=
rvice Manual.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell <bs=
pidell@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM
To: john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.

Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were 'cross-colored.' The=
 harness was brand new; I don't know of any that supply extra wiring for se=
parate turn signals, but I haven't looked (would be a good idea, though).
bs

On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john harper wrote:
Bob
Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?

I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights coming on is=
 very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This confus=
ing array is therefore dangerous. In the UK amber turn lights have been man=
datory for many years. Younger drivers would not understand anything but am=
ber.

The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights connected on=
 the existing wires but connect both red stoplights to this additional wire=
. At the relay box, all is needed is one wire being redirected to the new w=
ire.

dell@comcast.net>> wrote:
Michael,

I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2 (probably from Moss)=
. I thought the harness was good quality overall, and everything worked exc=
ept the turn signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything; we went so=
 far as to open the relay box, but everything looked good in there. I event=
ually discovered the wiring to one of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-co=
lored. This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare chassis just from the=
 schematic and it would have been 100% correct if not for the misidentified=
 wire. I'll probably never sell the car, but whoever ends up with it will b=
e confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from the schematic. Come =
to think of it, I should probably label the flaw ... as soon as I finish al=
l the other stuff needs fixin'.

Bob

On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of components tonight. =
 Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage regulator.  Looking at a wiri=
ng diagram, the way you see in the two pictures is mostly correct, but look=
 at what the arrows are pointing at.  At the point in the harness where the=
 wires come out of the loom for the fuse block, you can see on the right ha=
nd side the arrow is pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe.  Good so=
 far.  Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the other side of the fuse=
 block.  It's a large solid brown wire.  Now in the wiring diagram this bro=
wn wire is supposed to be a continuation of the brown with a green stripe w=
ire.  That brown wire with the green strip that was supposed to be there go=
es to the "A" connection of the voltage regulator.  Now look at the picture=
 of the voltage regulator and notice what the orange arrow is pointing at. =
It is the other end of the plain, large brown wire!  The electrical connect=
ions are correct.  The color coding of the harness is not.  I have just sta=
rted wiring.  What else might I find in the rest of the harness?  This harn=
ess was a gift from my late friend Tom Rocke.  It was one of many free part=
s he supplied for this rebuild.  Don't know if I should complain about a fr=
ee harness.
Mike MacLean


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The Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown wire is co=
nnected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on the regulator.</div=
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The wires are correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH 100 Se=
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.</font>
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<div>Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were 'cross-colored.=
' The harness was brand new; I don't know of any that supply extra wiring f=
or separate turn signals, but I haven't looked (would be a good idea, thoug=
h).<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john harper wrote:<b=
r>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob
<div>Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights coming =
on is very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This c=
onfusing&nbsp;array is therefore dangerous. In the UK amber turn&nbsp;light=
s have been mandatory for many years. Younger
 drivers would&nbsp;not understand&nbsp;anything but amber.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights connect=
ed on the existing wires but connect both red stoplights to this additional=
 wire. At the relay box, all is needed is one wire being redirected to the =
new wire.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob S=
pidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Michael,<br>
<br>
I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2 (probably from Moss)=
. I thought the harness was good quality overall, and everything worked exc=
ept the turn signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything; we went so=
 far as to open the relay box, but
 everything looked good in there. I eventually discovered the wiring to one=
 of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-colored. This really pissed me off, =
as I'd wired a bare chassis just from the schematic and it would have been =
100% correct if not for the misidentified
 wire. I'll probably never sell the car, but whoever ends up with it will b=
e confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from the schematic. Come =
to think of it, I should probably label the flaw ... as soon as I finish al=
l the other stuff needs fixin'.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of com=
ponents tonight.&nbsp; Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage regulat=
or.&nbsp; Looking at a wiring diagram, the way you see in the two pictures =
is mostly correct, but look at what the arrows
 are pointing at.&nbsp; At the point in the harness where the wires come ou=
t of the loom for the fuse block, you can see on the right hand side the ar=
row is pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe.&nbsp; Good so far.&nbs=
p; Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the
 other side of the fuse block.&nbsp; It's a large solid brown wire.&nbsp; N=
ow in the wiring diagram this brown wire is supposed to be a continuation o=
f the brown with a green stripe wire.&nbsp; That brown wire with the green =
strip that was supposed to be there goes to the
 &quot;A&quot; connection of the voltage regulator.&nbsp; Now look at the p=
icture of the voltage regulator and notice what the orange arrow is pointin=
g at. It is the other end of the plain, large brown wire!&nbsp; The electri=
cal connections are correct.&nbsp; The color coding of the
 harness is not.&nbsp; I have just started wiring.&nbsp; What else might I =
find in the rest of the harness?&nbsp; This harness was a gift from my late=
 friend Tom Rocke.&nbsp; It was one of many free parts he supplied for this=
 rebuild.&nbsp; Don't know if I should complain about a free
 harness.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br>
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