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Best horns in the world. Imminently repairable and thus durable. They
may be heavy but they are well engineered. All Lucas horns until the
late seventies were fit to repair. Mostly the points are dirty after
they have been idle for a long time. Drilling out the rivets, cleaning
the points, cutting a few gaskets and some small bolts and nuts instead
of the rivets, will see them in full operation again.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 20-1-2021 om 13:43 schreef Chris Dimmock:
> Lucas horns are the crowns of the prince of darkness.
> I love most Lucas stuff.
> Except Lucas Horns.
> Devils stuff.
> The Lucas horn in my A40 Farina weighs 2.5 Kg.
> Waste of everything
>
>
>
>> On 20 Jan 2021, at 5:02 pm, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Man, those horns take a lot of juice. That's about the total
>> output--25A, give or take--of a stock generator (maybe less at idle).
>>
>> Anybody ever laid on the horns with the lights on?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/19/2021 7:53 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote:
>>> The Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown
>>> wire is connected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on
>>> the regulator.
>>>
>>> The wires are correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH
>>> 100 Service Manual.
>>>
>>> Bill Lawrence
>>> BN1 #554
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob
>>> Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM
>>> *To:* john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.
>>> Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were
>>> 'cross-colored.' The harness was brand new; I don't know of any that
>>> supply extra wiring for separate turn signals, but I haven't looked
>>> (would be a good idea, though).
>>> bs
>>>
>>> On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john harper wrote:
>>>> Bob
>>>> Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?
>>>>
>>>> I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights
>>>> coming on is very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and
>>>> brakes. This confusing array is therefore dangerous. In the UK
>>>> amber turn lights have been mandatory for many years. Younger
>>>> drivers would not understand anything but amber.
>>>>
>>>> The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights
>>>> connected on the existing wires but connect both red stoplights to
>>>> this additional wire. At the relay box, all is needed is one wire
>>>> being redirected to the new wire.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2
>>>> (probably from Moss). I thought the harness was good quality
>>>> overall, and everything worked except the turn signals. I spent
>>>> 3 days double-checking everything; we went so far as to open
>>>> the relay box, but everything looked good in there. I
>>>> eventually discovered the wiring to one of the rear brake/turn
>>>> lights was mis-colored. This really pissed me off, as I'd wired
>>>> a bare chassis just from the schematic and it would have been
>>>> 100% correct if not for the misidentified wire. I'll probably
>>>> never sell the car, but whoever ends up with it will be
>>>> confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from the
>>>> schematic. Come to think of it, I should probably label the
>>>> flaw ... as soon as I finish all the other stuff needs fixin'.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
>>>>> Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of
>>>>> components tonight. Specifically, the fuse block and the
>>>>> voltage regulator. Looking at a wiring diagram, the way you
>>>>> see in the two pictures is mostly correct, but look at what
>>>>> the arrows are pointing at. At the point in the harness where
>>>>> the wires come out of the loom for the fuse block, you can see
>>>>> on the right hand side the arrow is pointing to a brown wire
>>>>> with a green stripe. Good so far. Now look what the arrow is
>>>>> pointing at on the other side of the fuse block. It's a large
>>>>> solid brown wire. Now in the wiring diagram this brown wire
>>>>> is supposed to be a continuation of the brown with a green
>>>>> stripe wire. That brown wire with the green strip that was
>>>>> supposed to be there goes to the "A" connection of the voltage
>>>>> regulator. Now look at the picture of the voltage regulator
>>>>> and notice what the orange arrow is pointing at. It is the
>>>>> other end of the plain, large brown wire! The electrical
>>>>> connections are correct. The color coding of the harness is
>>>>> not. I have just started wiring. What else might I find in
>>>>> the rest of the harness? This harness was a gift from my late
>>>>> friend Tom Rocke. It was one of many free parts he supplied
>>>>> for this rebuild. Don't know if I should complain about a
>>>>> free harness.
>>>>> Mike MacLean
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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<p>Best horns in the world. Imminently repairable and thus durable.
They may be heavy but they are well engineered. All Lucas horns
until the late seventies were fit to repair. Mostly the points are
dirty after they have been idle for a long time. Drilling out the
rivets, cleaning the points, cutting a few gaskets and some small
bolts and nuts instead of the rivets, will see them in full
operation again.</p>
<p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 20-1-2021 om 13:43 schreef Chris
Dimmock:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1C1BC839-9FE6-4A5D-B239-96BAAEABE7BE@gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="ltr">Lucas horns are the crowns of the prince of
darkness. </div>
<div dir="ltr">I love most Lucas stuff. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Except Lucas Horns. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Devils stuff. </div>
<div dir="ltr">The Lucas horn in my A40 Farina weighs 2.5 Kg. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Waste of everything </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On 20 Jan 2021, at 5:02 pm, Bob Spidell
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8">
Man, those horns take a lot of juice. That's about the total
output--25A, give or take--of a stock generator (maybe less at
idle).<br>
<br>
Anybody ever laid on the horns with the lights on? <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2021 7:53 PM, WILLIAM B
LAWRENCE wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:BYAPR15MB2213F64C0002E517B57054F5A5A20@BYAPR15MB2213.namprd15.prod.outlook.com">
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charset=UTF-8">
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> The Brown/Green
wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown wire is
connected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on
the regulator.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> The wires are
correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH 100
Service Manual.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Bill Lawrence</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> BN1 #554</div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1">
<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font
style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
on behalf of Bob Spidell <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> john harper <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"><ah100tech@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.</font>
<div>Â </div>
</div>
<div>Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were
'cross-colored.' The harness was brand new; I don't know
of any that supply extra wiring for separate turn signals,
but I haven't looked (would be a good idea, though).<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john
harper wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Bob
<div>Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I and many others in the UK feel that with just
two red lights coming on is very confusing
particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This
confusing array is therefore dangerous. In the UK
amber turn lights have been mandatory for many
years. Younger drivers would not understand anything
but amber.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The mod we make for the back of the car is to add
amber lights connected on the existing wires but
connect both red stoplights to this additional wire.
At the relay box, all is needed is one wire being
redirected to the new wire.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="x_gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, 19 Jan
2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell <<a
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div>Michael,<br>
<br>
I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our
BN2 (probably from Moss). I thought the harness
was good quality overall, and everything worked
except the turn signals. I spent 3 days
double-checking everything; we went so far as to
open the relay box, but everything looked good in
there. I eventually discovered the wiring to one
of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-colored.
This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare
chassis just from the schematic and it would have
been 100% correct if not for the misidentified
wire. I'll probably never sell the car, but
whoever ends up with it will be confused, as a
couple of wires are interchanged from the
schematic. Come to think of it, I should probably
label the flaw ... as soon as I finish all the
other stuff needs fixin'.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="">
<div dir="ltr">Was in the engine bay doing
some preliminary wiring of components
tonight. Specifically, the fuse block and
the voltage regulator. Looking at a wiring
diagram, the way you see in the two pictures
is mostly correct, but look at what the
arrows are pointing at. At the point in the
harness where the wires come out of the loom
for the fuse block, you can see on the right
hand side the arrow is pointing to a brown
wire with a green stripe. Good so far. Now
look what the arrow is pointing at on the
other side of the fuse block. It's a large
solid brown wire. Now in the wiring diagram
this brown wire is supposed to be a
continuation of the brown with a green
stripe wire. That brown wire with the green
strip that was supposed to be there goes to
the "A" connection of the voltage
regulator. Now look at the picture of the
voltage regulator and notice what the orange
arrow is pointing at. It is the other end of
the plain, large brown wire! The electrical
connections are correct. The color coding
of the harness is not. I have just started
wiring. What else might I find in the rest
of the harness? This harness was a gift
from my late friend Tom Rocke. It was one
of many free parts he supplied for this
rebuild. Don't know if I should complain
about a free harness.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Mike MacLean<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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