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Re: No start, Alternator?

To: gofastmg@juno.com
Subject: Re: No start, Alternator?
From: mgbob@juno.com (ROBERT G. HOWARD)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:35:48 EDT
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:27:22 EDT gofastmg@juno.com (Rick Morrison)
writes:
>
>On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:37:46 -0700 Bill Schooler <schooler@erols.com> 
>writes:
>SNIP
>>Only one problem here.  Don't believe you car will run without a 
>>battery 
>>in the electrical circuit.  If there's an open in the battery-battery 
>
>>connection, I suspect the engine would die as soon as you 
>disconnected 
>>
>>the battery being used to jump start the car.  Now, if you had a 
>>magneto, 
>>that's a different story....
>>
>>BTW, please correct me if I'm wrong here (as if this list needs an 
>>invitation like that!)
>>
>>-- 
>>*Bill Schooler      *Check the MGCC Wash DC Centre Web Page
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>>*schooler@erols.com *Editor of The Spark
>>*69 B/GT, 53 TD     *Web Page Coordinator
>
>HIGHLY UN-TECHNICAL RESPONSE FOLLOWS:
>
>Bill,
>  Nope you don't need a Magneto.  with a good alternator, the car will 
>continue to run, as the main power lead from the alternator connects 
>directly to the positive cable at the solenoid. Thus, while the 
>alernator is "charging", the system is supplied with sufficient 
>current to operate. 
>  Once the ignition is turned off, and the engines stops, no more 
>current, no more power - she won't crank.
>  Kiddies, don't try this at home!. Running the alternator with the 
>battery out of the circuit can fry the alternator. It doesn't have a 
>feed back of voltage from the battery, and being a dumb piece of inert 
>matter, assumes the battery is dead and cranks up the output to max to 
>"charge the battery, still no voltage from the battery, stays at max - 
>Result? loss of electrical smoke from the alternator and the golden 
>opportunity to go out an purchase a new alternator.
>
>Rick Morrison
>72 MGBGT
>74 Midget
>
Rick, 
  Here's another request for information and correction.  It has been my
"knowledge" that a generator could energise itself, and so could run the
car without a battery in the circuit, but that an alternator required an
outside source of voltage to energise its fields, thus a battery with
some tiny amount of power was required. True/not true?
Bob Howard
MGBob @ juno.com

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