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Re: Rear Leaf Springs

To: "ronking" <ronking@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Leaf Springs
From: Barney Gaylord <barneymg@MGAguru.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 02:35:46 -0600
At 09:32 PM 11/6/03 -0800, Ron King wrote:
>I seem to recall a recent thread regarding rear leaf spring replacements 
>either ending up raising or lowering the car.  As this is my next area of 
>restoration/repair can I get some feedback?

When the rear of the car sits too low it can bottom out the suspension on 
bumps or potholes and can extricate your exhaust system while traversing a 
speed bump.  This is the problem which most often starts this quest.

When the leaf springs make your car sit too high in the back, it can 
quickly run out of travel on the rebound straps with quick cornering and 
moderate body roll.  As soon as a rebound strap goes taught it will lift 
the inside rear wheel, placing all of the rear weight of your car on one 
wheel.  With the excess weight on the one wheel, that tire looses grip 
efficiency, and the tail end of the car will swing wide rather quickly and 
without notice.  This represents a severe case of oversteer, where you may 
find yourself quickly steering the other direction to keep the front wheels 
tracking the right direction down the road.  Sideways is not the quickest 
way around a turn.  God forbid you should panic and fully lift the throttle 
about that time, as the car may well swap ends and leave you wondering 
where the road went.

Increasing the length of the rebound strap may help some, but if you run 
out of travel on the shock absorber you end up with the same problem 
anyway.  The only good solution is to keep the ride height down to 
something near the original specs.  Unfortunately a lot of new leaf springs 
in recent years have been manufactured with too much arch, leaving the car 
sitting too high.  New rear springs I installed on my MGA in 1997 were too 
high like this.  They screwed up the handling so bad that they didn't make 
it through the summer before they were recycled to the nearest swap 
meet.  The original issue parts were restored and renistalled, and are 
still on the car today, 45 years after the factory knew best.

I have no idea who supplies leaf springs of the correct height today, but I 
still hear a lot of bad stories about new ones being too high.

A couple of our local club members got it right about a year ago when 
repairing a broken spring on their BGT.  They decided to upgrade to 
additional load capacity at the same time, so they took the problem to a 
local spring shop.  They determined the ride height desired with unloaded 
condition, including the loaded arch height of the spring.  Then they 
considered the load they wanted to carry, divided by the allowable settling 
distance, which gave the required spring rate.  These two numbers were 
given to the local spring shop along with the old worn and broken 
springs.  The shop shortly returned refurbished springs with an extra leaf 
and the correct loaded ride height.  All is well that ends well.  The whole 
story is here: http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/driveline/1002/jasw.html

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com




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