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RE: Totally OT venting...

To: <mvheim@studiolimage.com>, <mgs@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: RE: Totally OT venting...
From: "Councill, David" <dcouncill@msubillings.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:53:32 -0700
I have only bought one brand new car in my life - a Geo Prism (1992?). And
with it, I actually spent more money on the GM "bumper to bumper warranty." As
it turned out, there was a defect that caused the car to surge, particularly
at low speeds. The dealer and GM refused to fix it because so long as the car
got us from "point a to point b" (their quote), there was nothing really wrong
with it because it got the job done (another indicator of the GM philsophy of
crappy engineered cars). So I had to go through Better Business Bureau to
force them to fix it which they did by replacing the computer, at a cost then
of about $750. They eventually found out the problem was with the throttle
position sensor which had to be replaced every 12000 miles - and each time I
had to argue and force them to honor the bumper to bumper warranty.

I will never buy a GM product again. Sure the Geo was actually a Toyota and
for the most part, it was a fine car. But the GM service was evasive and poor.
Lately, I have bought a few Fords but I have returned to my old philosophy to
always buy used and let someone else pay the depreciation and debugging. But I
am still seriously pondering replacing my faithful Ford Explorer with
something a bit classier like a Rover of some kind....

David Councill
67 BGT
72 B

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From: owner-mgs@Autox.Team.Net on behalf of Saabnutty@aol.com
Sent: Fri 1/14/2005 6:32 PM
To: mvheim@studiolimage.com; mgs@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: Totally OT venting...



Max,
I agree, I would keep driving it - especially after that sort of estimate!  I
drove my old 1989 Saab with the engine light going on and off for no
traceable reason until my mechanic eventually found a fault code that pointed
to a
faulty air mass sensor.  $125 later, I was back in business!  If it really is
the
Geo's computer (and not some faulty sensor) your best bet is probably a junk
yard.  Maybe a second opinion would be a good idea too.

Good luck!
donny v
1978 MGB

In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mvheim@studiolimage.com writes:
To be fair, the service manager is now looking for aftermarket or used parts
-- he realizes it is ridiculous to expect someone to put a $1200 part into a
$1500 car. The screwy thing is, it was driving fine -- I should have just
ignored the light, I guess. But how was I to know?




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